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<blockquote data-quote="island1fox" data-source="post: 657767" data-attributes="member: 4816"><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" />No disrepect to Tie and Klien -but to focus on this Historic Bill:</p><p>Seems like complaints from both left and right --Could it possibly make wkmac happy ? No --</p><p>1. No public option</p><p>2. Young people will opt to pay 750. dollar penalty -rather than two to three thousand for health care.</p><p>3. If or when young get sick -private insurance cannot turn them down ---%of more sick covered--high % well not covered --will drive up costs ---private insurance will raise all premiums.</p><p>4. To pay for all of the illegal aliens to be covered -the gov will reduce medicare payments to doctors by 22% while not forcing doctors to accept medicare. Common sense will tell you that less doctors will accept medicare or they will charge the private insurance patients 22% more.</p><p>5. With less doctors accepting Medicare ---and millions and millions of baby boomers retiring --the elderly have been sold out. Long waiting lists and rationing{who said death panels} will be a reality. Including UPS seniors that are tossed into medicare. Nice to know you worked hard your whole life --and your elderly care will be much worse that an illegal alien !!!</p><p> </p><p>Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats are ramming this down our throats as a "Christmas Present" With the combo medicare/private --mostly the Seniors will suffer.</p><p>Shame also on the AARP --they are selling MEDIGAP Insurance that will make them Billions off the elderly peoples backs.</p><p>With all that stated --20 to thirty million will still not be covered.</p><p>Do not respond with Republican "blocking bull" This Legislation is staight Democrat with all the votes needed--once you calmly dissect it --you will see that it is a disaster that will raise heath care cost for all !!!</p><p>As Howard Dean has pointed out --only the Private health Insurance companies will profit big time from this Bill. I guess he is a "right wing " nut.</p><p>Also the House -Pelosi is stating the Senate Bill will be the one-MINOR OR NO CHANGES from the house.</p><p> </p><p>Does not matter what is in the Bill --who it will hurt-the cost or who will benefit --Just Give OBAMA his Glory.</p><p>Obama has stated that he has sent his wife and family on to Hawaii for Vacation --but he will sacrafice himself and stay in the White House until the Historic vote. After Gloating and telling America How great he is --Air force one will make a second trip to hawaii on Christmas eve. So much for Global warming<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/angry.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":angry:" title="Angry :angry:" data-shortname=":angry:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="island1fox, post: 657767, member: 4816"] :happy-very:No disrepect to Tie and Klien -but to focus on this Historic Bill: Seems like complaints from both left and right --Could it possibly make wkmac happy ? No -- 1. No public option 2. Young people will opt to pay 750. dollar penalty -rather than two to three thousand for health care. 3. If or when young get sick -private insurance cannot turn them down ---%of more sick covered--high % well not covered --will drive up costs ---private insurance will raise all premiums. 4. To pay for all of the illegal aliens to be covered -the gov will reduce medicare payments to doctors by 22% while not forcing doctors to accept medicare. Common sense will tell you that less doctors will accept medicare or they will charge the private insurance patients 22% more. 5. With less doctors accepting Medicare ---and millions and millions of baby boomers retiring --the elderly have been sold out. Long waiting lists and rationing{who said death panels} will be a reality. Including UPS seniors that are tossed into medicare. Nice to know you worked hard your whole life --and your elderly care will be much worse that an illegal alien !!! Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats are ramming this down our throats as a "Christmas Present" With the combo medicare/private --mostly the Seniors will suffer. Shame also on the AARP --they are selling MEDIGAP Insurance that will make them Billions off the elderly peoples backs. With all that stated --20 to thirty million will still not be covered. Do not respond with Republican "blocking bull" This Legislation is staight Democrat with all the votes needed--once you calmly dissect it --you will see that it is a disaster that will raise heath care cost for all !!! As Howard Dean has pointed out --only the Private health Insurance companies will profit big time from this Bill. I guess he is a "right wing " nut. Also the House -Pelosi is stating the Senate Bill will be the one-MINOR OR NO CHANGES from the house. Does not matter what is in the Bill --who it will hurt-the cost or who will benefit --Just Give OBAMA his Glory. Obama has stated that he has sent his wife and family on to Hawaii for Vacation --but he will sacrafice himself and stay in the White House until the Historic vote. After Gloating and telling America How great he is --Air force one will make a second trip to hawaii on Christmas eve. So much for Global warming:angry: [/QUOTE]
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