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<blockquote data-quote="pickup" data-source="post: 658423"><p>Yeah, I guess that was point . Now I'll take it to a different level, maybe someone feels that a massage or reflexology is the way to go, the money that would have gone to the practitioners of that has to go to pay for health insurance(and that term "health insurance" is really a misnomer, can anyone insure your health.?Your car ,perhaps, if damaged, insurance will pay to make your car whole again, can the medical industry really restore your medical health? No. On the question of auto insurance, if you don't like it , you don't buy a car. By virtue of someone having a body and being an american citizen, now he is forced to buy something he may not have wanted. Free market means willing producers and consumers. This is forced consumption or at the very least , being forced to pay for something you may not want to use, i.e. our christian scientist friends. </p><p></p><p>I am surprised that you never heard of the christian scientists, tie. They usually make the news when a child of a christian scientist couple is sick(perhaps cancer) and they refuse to have the child treated conventionally. The state then steps in and rules the parents negligent if they don't have the child treated the way the a.m.a says he should be treated. </p><p>Now if a christian scientist who is an adult has cancer, he usually can get away without conventional treatment and not run afoul of the state. But there is a catch, the doctors can rule the patient not of sound mind by virtue of rejecting the prescribed treatment (which is always medicine provided by a very profitable drug industry) . The doctors then use the power of the state to coerce the patient in remaining a patient. Patient can't argue "I can't afford it" since he now has medical insurance that he was forced to buy. </p><p></p><p>Final point, no more such thing as a second opinion now. The second doctor will enter your s.s. (S.S, how fitting) number into the system and see your records including the diagnosis of the previous physician. Do you think he is going to go against the known opinion of another physician. </p><p>Before this measure , you could get a real second opinion as the second doctor did not have a clue what the first doctor said about your condition.</p><p></p><p>Who benefits from this? Yes, the drug companies who I am sure played a great role in how this came about. They figured that if they are going to be regulated, they might as well determine how they were going to be regulated in an effort to make even more money than before. </p><p></p><p>Sad Day for America. I hope we can vote these 60 rotten scoundrels out of office and replace then with 60 rotten scoundrels from the other side who hopefully will turn this back. </p><p></p><p>Good going Obama, you are going to replace Jimmy Carter as the worst one term president.</p><p></p><p>Yeah , I rambled. Tough!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pickup, post: 658423"] Yeah, I guess that was point . Now I'll take it to a different level, maybe someone feels that a massage or reflexology is the way to go, the money that would have gone to the practitioners of that has to go to pay for health insurance(and that term "health insurance" is really a misnomer, can anyone insure your health.?Your car ,perhaps, if damaged, insurance will pay to make your car whole again, can the medical industry really restore your medical health? No. On the question of auto insurance, if you don't like it , you don't buy a car. By virtue of someone having a body and being an american citizen, now he is forced to buy something he may not have wanted. Free market means willing producers and consumers. This is forced consumption or at the very least , being forced to pay for something you may not want to use, i.e. our christian scientist friends. I am surprised that you never heard of the christian scientists, tie. They usually make the news when a child of a christian scientist couple is sick(perhaps cancer) and they refuse to have the child treated conventionally. The state then steps in and rules the parents negligent if they don't have the child treated the way the a.m.a says he should be treated. Now if a christian scientist who is an adult has cancer, he usually can get away without conventional treatment and not run afoul of the state. But there is a catch, the doctors can rule the patient not of sound mind by virtue of rejecting the prescribed treatment (which is always medicine provided by a very profitable drug industry) . The doctors then use the power of the state to coerce the patient in remaining a patient. Patient can't argue "I can't afford it" since he now has medical insurance that he was forced to buy. Final point, no more such thing as a second opinion now. The second doctor will enter your s.s. (S.S, how fitting) number into the system and see your records including the diagnosis of the previous physician. Do you think he is going to go against the known opinion of another physician. Before this measure , you could get a real second opinion as the second doctor did not have a clue what the first doctor said about your condition. Who benefits from this? Yes, the drug companies who I am sure played a great role in how this came about. They figured that if they are going to be regulated, they might as well determine how they were going to be regulated in an effort to make even more money than before. Sad Day for America. I hope we can vote these 60 rotten scoundrels out of office and replace then with 60 rotten scoundrels from the other side who hopefully will turn this back. Good going Obama, you are going to replace Jimmy Carter as the worst one term president. Yeah , I rambled. Tough! [/QUOTE]
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