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<blockquote data-quote="brett636" data-source="post: 660280" data-attributes="member: 249">Honestly I believe that is what they really want.&nbsp; Obama and the dems want things to get worse, because they believe if it gets bad enough the people will be begging to get universal government healthcare, which is honestly their end game.&nbsp; This whole push for healthcare was going to take one of two roads in Obama&#039;s mind.&nbsp; The first and obvious toughest road would have been a bill that enacted straight universal healthcare, but that just was not possible in today&#039;s political environment.&nbsp; So they chose plan B, which was to make things even worse for the people through bad legislation heralded as the solution.&nbsp; When the healthcare situation becomes even worse they will push for a public option, or even a single payer healthcare system if they think they can get away with it.&nbsp; What really gets my goat about this is the fact that this entire debacle has nothing to do with helping the people get a more free and or fair healthcare environment.&nbsp; Its about getting those in Washington more power, because the democrats know that if they can just get their hands into our healthcare, they can maintain power for decades.&nbsp; Every election cycle it will be the democrats pointing to their opposition and saying &quot;if you vote them in, you will lose your healthcare!&quot;.&nbsp; Lets not also forget healthcare is the backdoor into just about every aspect of our lives that they feel they need to regulate.&nbsp; Everything including your choice of food, firearms you own to even the type of outdoor activities you can enjoy will be convoluted into some kind of health issue, and if the government has their hands in your healthcare they have a vested interest in making sure you don&#039;t do the activities they deem unhealthy.&nbsp; The 2010 midterm elections are probably the most important election cycle in a long time.&nbsp; If the dems can maintain control of both houses this is going to get real ugly, real fast by the time the 2012 elections roll around.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brett636, post: 660280, member: 249"] Honestly I believe that is what they really want. Obama and the dems want things to get worse, because they believe if it gets bad enough the people will be begging to get universal government healthcare, which is honestly their end game. This whole push for healthcare was going to take one of two roads in Obama's mind. The first and obvious toughest road would have been a bill that enacted straight universal healthcare, but that just was not possible in today's political environment. So they chose plan B, which was to make things even worse for the people through bad legislation heralded as the solution. When the healthcare situation becomes even worse they will push for a public option, or even a single payer healthcare system if they think they can get away with it. What really gets my goat about this is the fact that this entire debacle has nothing to do with helping the people get a more free and or fair healthcare environment. Its about getting those in Washington more power, because the democrats know that if they can just get their hands into our healthcare, they can maintain power for decades. Every election cycle it will be the democrats pointing to their opposition and saying "if you vote them in, you will lose your healthcare!". Lets not also forget healthcare is the backdoor into just about every aspect of our lives that they feel they need to regulate. Everything including your choice of food, firearms you own to even the type of outdoor activities you can enjoy will be convoluted into some kind of health issue, and if the government has their hands in your healthcare they have a vested interest in making sure you don't do the activities they deem unhealthy. The 2010 midterm elections are probably the most important election cycle in a long time. If the dems can maintain control of both houses this is going to get real ugly, real fast by the time the 2012 elections roll around. [/QUOTE]

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