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<blockquote data-quote="brett636" data-source="post: 1015088" data-attributes="member: 249">You claim you don&#039;t know what I am talking about then you post this junk?&nbsp; Allow me to educate you.Explain to me the logic of our government simultaneously requiring higher MPG cars while making it prohibitively expensive for the auto manufacturers to bring cars over here that can go well beyond the 35.5 mpg standard.&nbsp; For example VW makes a small car overseas called the Lupo that gets around 75-80 mpg.&nbsp; How does it do this you ask?&nbsp; Why it has a diesel engine, but our EPA goes full <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2&nbsp; &nbsp; :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> when it comes to diesel engines blaming them for all sorts of air quality issues so the manufacturers just don&#039;t bring them here.&nbsp; So basically the government is telling the manufacturers that they have to meet this new standard without using technology they already have to well exceed that standard.&nbsp; What is the point of that? You may be asking yourself how I can expect higher mpg vehicles to come to market, and the answer is simple really.&nbsp; When the car buyers start demanding higher mpg vehicles the manufacturers will produce them.&nbsp; Look at the spike in oil prices in 2008 and how it collapsed the market for large gas guzzling SUV&#039;s.&nbsp; It wasn&#039;t the government telling people they had to buy more efficient vehicles, it was their pocket books that did, and the auto manufacturers have responded with a host of more efficient cars.&nbsp; You also say you think its the government&#039;s job to make us an energy independent nation, and all those billions poured into the U.S. department of energy for that cause has yet to show any results.&nbsp; We could be energy independent in 10 years if the government would embrace CNG vehicles allowing us to make good use of our vast CNG reserves, but it won&#039;t take those steps.&nbsp; Our current crop of politicians and bureaucrats insist that we wait for pie in the sky technology that isn&#039;t anywhere near ready for primetime.&nbsp; Technologies like electric cars and hydrodgen fuel cells which won&#039;t be ready for another 20 years if not longer.&nbsp; Until then I guess we get to figure out how to convert our current vehicles to run on unicorn farts until that time comes.&nbsp;&nbsp; The scary conclusion here is nobody in the Obama administration wants us to find better ways of transportation.&nbsp; As Obama&#039;s science adviser has stated it is their goal to &quot;de-evolve&quot; the United States economically, and always waiting on that next great idea that never bears fruit is the way they intend on doing it.&nbsp; Until then they are going to require more and more of the auto manufacturers until an entry level car costs north of $40k, and only the elitist liberals can afford to buy and operate them.&nbsp; The end game here is not to improve our standard of life, but to lower it to the level of every other nation on this planet.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brett636, post: 1015088, member: 249"] You claim you don't know what I am talking about then you post this junk? Allow me to educate you. Explain to me the logic of our government simultaneously requiring higher MPG cars while making it prohibitively expensive for the auto manufacturers to bring cars over here that can go well beyond the 35.5 mpg standard. For example VW makes a small car overseas called the Lupo that gets around 75-80 mpg. How does it do this you ask? Why it has a diesel engine, but our EPA goes full :censored: when it comes to diesel engines blaming them for all sorts of air quality issues so the manufacturers just don't bring them here. So basically the government is telling the manufacturers that they have to meet this new standard without using technology they already have to well exceed that standard. What is the point of that? You may be asking yourself how I can expect higher mpg vehicles to come to market, and the answer is simple really. When the car buyers start demanding higher mpg vehicles the manufacturers will produce them. Look at the spike in oil prices in 2008 and how it collapsed the market for large gas guzzling SUV's. It wasn't the government telling people they had to buy more efficient vehicles, it was their pocket books that did, and the auto manufacturers have responded with a host of more efficient cars. You also say you think its the government's job to make us an energy independent nation, and all those billions poured into the U.S. department of energy for that cause has yet to show any results. We could be energy independent in 10 years if the government would embrace CNG vehicles allowing us to make good use of our vast CNG reserves, but it won't take those steps. Our current crop of politicians and bureaucrats insist that we wait for pie in the sky technology that isn't anywhere near ready for primetime. Technologies like electric cars and hydrodgen fuel cells which won't be ready for another 20 years if not longer. Until then I guess we get to figure out how to convert our current vehicles to run on unicorn farts until that time comes. The scary conclusion here is nobody in the Obama administration wants us to find better ways of transportation. As Obama's science adviser has stated it is their goal to "de-evolve" the United States economically, and always waiting on that next great idea that never bears fruit is the way they intend on doing it. Until then they are going to require more and more of the auto manufacturers until an entry level car costs north of $40k, and only the elitist liberals can afford to buy and operate them. The end game here is not to improve our standard of life, but to lower it to the level of every other nation on this planet. [/QUOTE]

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