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<blockquote data-quote="brett636" data-source="post: 843949" data-attributes="member: 249">I&#039;m not so sure I would go that far and say that the non union competition are paid slave wages for their work.&nbsp; In Greensburg, IN Honda built a new manufacturing facility with wages averaging in the $24/hr range.&nbsp; Considering Greensburg is a mostly rural Indiana town wages like that go a very long way.&nbsp; This thread is mostly dedicated to showing how GM and Chrysler were not worthy of the government bailouts they received.&nbsp; In the eat or be eaten world of industry they should have disappeared rather than propped up by taxpayer dollars.&nbsp; While both companies talk a big game about improving themselves and their products they have yet to produce on these claims.&nbsp; Their overall quality levels have still lagged behind those of their still private competition and their products are generally subpar especially when compared to their foreign competition.&nbsp; Lets not also forget the precedent set here regarding large companies and government bailouts.&nbsp; Now these companies and others can pretty much bet the farm on whatever crazy idea that comes down the pike because they have no real fear of failure.&nbsp; If it doesn&#039;t work out and they lose the government will always be there to bail them out.&nbsp; Where is the desire to improve and succeed when there is no real threat of failure?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brett636, post: 843949, member: 249"] I'm not so sure I would go that far and say that the non union competition are paid slave wages for their work. In Greensburg, IN Honda built a new manufacturing facility with wages averaging in the $24/hr range. Considering Greensburg is a mostly rural Indiana town wages like that go a very long way. This thread is mostly dedicated to showing how GM and Chrysler were not worthy of the government bailouts they received. In the eat or be eaten world of industry they should have disappeared rather than propped up by taxpayer dollars. While both companies talk a big game about improving themselves and their products they have yet to produce on these claims. Their overall quality levels have still lagged behind those of their still private competition and their products are generally subpar especially when compared to their foreign competition. Lets not also forget the precedent set here regarding large companies and government bailouts. Now these companies and others can pretty much bet the farm on whatever crazy idea that comes down the pike because they have no real fear of failure. If it doesn't work out and they lose the government will always be there to bail them out. Where is the desire to improve and succeed when there is no real threat of failure? [/QUOTE]

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