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<blockquote data-quote="brett636" data-source="post: 844679" data-attributes="member: 249">First you marxists claim we conservatives are too close to the business community, but now we know nothing about it and you&#039;re the expert?&nbsp; Give me a break...&nbsp;Your right here.&nbsp; GM employs 173,000 people as per <a href="http://news.techwhack.com/2525-221127-general-motors-to-cut-workforce-by-30000/" target="_blank">this</a> article.&nbsp; &nbsp;No, its 173,000.&nbsp; For comparison sake UPS employs close to 400,000 people.&nbsp; UPS going out of business would be a bigger economic hit to our country then losing GM or Chrysler.&nbsp; &nbsp;Their information is definitely more accurate than yours, even if it isn&#039;t perfect.&nbsp; And yes, someone will eventually come in to fill the void.&nbsp; This may come as a shock to you, but more than just auto workers purchase cars.&nbsp; People still need to get from place to place and the demand for cars will still exist even after GM and Chrysler are gone.&nbsp; Someone at some point will have to step up and fill that demand or charge a lot more for their cars if they can&#039;t.&nbsp; Its the old age Supply versus demand principle.&nbsp; &nbsp;Do you mean 173,000 because that is all GM employs here.&nbsp; Considering the number of import brands that are building plants here I would say that isn&#039;t going to take long.&nbsp; Honda has a plant in Greensburg, IN that is adding a 2nd shift and will require 1000 more people.&nbsp; VW is about to open a plant in Chattanooga, TN employing thousands there.&nbsp; BMW has a plant in South Carolina and so on.&nbsp; I could go on for a long while but the point is imports are being built here while domestics continue to move their production offshore.&nbsp; Gee, wonder what their motivation is for that? &nbsp;Conservatives like myself want to see American companies succeed, but only if they can do so on their own.&nbsp; Getting propped up by the government is no way for a business to exist.&nbsp; &nbsp;I have seen plenty of import brands step up and open factories here in the U.S.&nbsp; Thats good enough for me.&nbsp; &nbsp;You mean like a BMW Z4 which is produced in South Carolina?&nbsp; Or what may be my next car which is the new VW Passat which will be produced in Chattanooga, TN?&nbsp; Or the Toyota Tundra which is built in San Antonio, TX?&nbsp; Or the Subaru forester which is built in Indiana?&nbsp; How about the F150?&nbsp; Oh yea, its built in Mexico.&nbsp; My bad....&nbsp;Where do you come up with this crap?&nbsp; GM&#039;s marketshare has been declining since the late 70s when it had over 51% of the U.S. market.&nbsp; Now its under 25% of I am not mistaken. Silly Marxist, come back with some verifiable and authentic numbers if your going to debate me.&nbsp; &nbsp;The Koreans have always been here, but they finally pulled their heads out of their rear ends and began building respectable and durable cars.&nbsp; &nbsp;If you don&#039;t have a source for these kind of numbers then don&#039;t post them.&nbsp; You just look like an even bigger fool.&nbsp; &nbsp;The smaller foreign cars are the ones getting the better fuel economy.&nbsp; Even the mighty Volt can only muster 36 mpg on the highway while my next car the VW Passat is supposed to get 43.&nbsp; Ford is getting it right by getting its cars into the 40 mpg range while GM still is trying to figure out who its going to sucker into buying its Volt.&nbsp; &nbsp;A small price to pay for a stronger auto industry.&nbsp; Now we have two domestic companies which are existing totally on welfare claiming to be making the cars people want to buy when the opposite is true.&nbsp; Its time to let these dinosaurs die like they were meant to so a real auto company can step up and take over.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brett636, post: 844679, member: 249"] First you marxists claim we conservatives are too close to the business community, but now we know nothing about it and you're the expert? Give me a break... Your right here. GM employs 173,000 people as per [URL="http://news.techwhack.com/2525-221127-general-motors-to-cut-workforce-by-30000/"]this[/URL] article. No, its 173,000. For comparison sake UPS employs close to 400,000 people. UPS going out of business would be a bigger economic hit to our country then losing GM or Chrysler. Their information is definitely more accurate than yours, even if it isn't perfect. And yes, someone will eventually come in to fill the void. This may come as a shock to you, but more than just auto workers purchase cars. People still need to get from place to place and the demand for cars will still exist even after GM and Chrysler are gone. Someone at some point will have to step up and fill that demand or charge a lot more for their cars if they can't. Its the old age Supply versus demand principle. Do you mean 173,000 because that is all GM employs here. Considering the number of import brands that are building plants here I would say that isn't going to take long. Honda has a plant in Greensburg, IN that is adding a 2nd shift and will require 1000 more people. VW is about to open a plant in Chattanooga, TN employing thousands there. BMW has a plant in South Carolina and so on. I could go on for a long while but the point is imports are being built here while domestics continue to move their production offshore. Gee, wonder what their motivation is for that? Conservatives like myself want to see American companies succeed, but only if they can do so on their own. Getting propped up by the government is no way for a business to exist. I have seen plenty of import brands step up and open factories here in the U.S. Thats good enough for me. You mean like a BMW Z4 which is produced in South Carolina? Or what may be my next car which is the new VW Passat which will be produced in Chattanooga, TN? Or the Toyota Tundra which is built in San Antonio, TX? Or the Subaru forester which is built in Indiana? How about the F150? Oh yea, its built in Mexico. My bad.... Where do you come up with this crap? GM's marketshare has been declining since the late 70s when it had over 51% of the U.S. market. Now its under 25% of I am not mistaken. Silly Marxist, come back with some verifiable and authentic numbers if your going to debate me. The Koreans have always been here, but they finally pulled their heads out of their rear ends and began building respectable and durable cars. If you don't have a source for these kind of numbers then don't post them. You just look like an even bigger fool. The smaller foreign cars are the ones getting the better fuel economy. Even the mighty Volt can only muster 36 mpg on the highway while my next car the VW Passat is supposed to get 43. Ford is getting it right by getting its cars into the 40 mpg range while GM still is trying to figure out who its going to sucker into buying its Volt. A small price to pay for a stronger auto industry. Now we have two domestic companies which are existing totally on welfare claiming to be making the cars people want to buy when the opposite is true. Its time to let these dinosaurs die like they were meant to so a real auto company can step up and take over. [/QUOTE]

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