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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1462536" data-attributes="member: 2189">As to the numbers you quote, you do have a point but let&#039;s think into this further.This is just <a href="http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/06/11/12170947-fbi-violent-crime-rates-in-the-us-drop-approach-historic-lows?lite" target="_blank">one small source</a> among many and many more but the fact is that both crimes against person and crimes against property are on the decline to the point they are reaching historic lows.&nbsp; Yet, own prison population has exploded to the point that the US now leads the world with the largest prison population.&nbsp; We&#039;ve even exceeded the Soviet Union&#039;s old gulag system but done so while crimes against person and property have fallen to historic lows.&nbsp; How can that be if the purpose of police is to &quot;protect and serve&quot; the public in their person and property?Thus it raises the question as to just what the crimes are that the people in prison are there for and if no person or property was involved, who and where is the victim of the crime?&nbsp; If one has fear of these &quot;criminals&quot; in our prison system and if no person or property was affected in their so-called &quot;commission of a crime&quot; of what are you really afraid of in the first place?&nbsp; And just &quot;WHO&quot; was the &quot;CRIME&quot; committed against?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1462536, member: 2189"] As to the numbers you quote, you do have a point but let's think into this further. This is just [URL='http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/06/11/12170947-fbi-violent-crime-rates-in-the-us-drop-approach-historic-lows?lite'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]one small source[/B][/COLOR][/URL] among many and many more but the fact is that both crimes against person and crimes against property are on the decline to the point they are reaching historic lows. Yet, own prison population has exploded to the point that the US now leads the world with the largest prison population. We've even exceeded the Soviet Union's old gulag system but done so while crimes against person and property have fallen to historic lows. How can that be if the purpose of police is to "protect and serve" the public in their person and property? Thus it raises the question as to just what the crimes are that the people in prison are there for and if no person or property was involved, who and where is the victim of the crime? If one has fear of these "criminals" in our prison system and if no person or property was affected in their so-called "commission of a crime" of what are you really afraid of in the first place? And just "WHO" was the "CRIME" committed against? [/QUOTE]

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