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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1064437" data-attributes="member: 14668">Utah. Arizona. Wyoming.All states with &quot;shall-issue&quot; concealed weapon permit laws. Heck, in Arizona you dont even need a permit at all, but they will issue one to residents anyway so that they can legally carry in states with reciprocity. So-called &quot;assault weapons&quot; and hi-cap magazines are also freely available for purchase in these states.The hand-wringers and snivelers at the Brady Coalition give all three states an &quot;friend&quot; rating because of their supposedly lax gun laws...yet you name cities in these states as shining examples of nice safe places to live. Odd.If you want to be safe from gun crime...why not live somewhere near Los Angeles? Or Chicago? Or Washington DC? What about San Francisco or Oakland? These are all cities with strict limitations or even outright bans on the possession of the handguns. These are places where trained and law abiding citizens are arbitrarily denied the right to licensed concealed carry.According to your logic...shouldnt these be the nice, safe cities to live in? How could anyone possibly be safe in states like Utah or AZ or Wyoming where guns are freely available and carried?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1064437, member: 14668"] Utah. Arizona. Wyoming. All states with "shall-issue" concealed weapon permit laws. Heck, in Arizona you dont even need a permit [I]at all, [/I]but they will issue one to residents anyway so that they can legally carry in states with reciprocity. So-called "assault weapons" and hi-cap magazines are also [I]freely available [/I]for purchase in these states. The hand-wringers and snivelers at the Brady Coalition give all three states an "friend" rating because of their supposedly lax gun laws...yet [I]you[/I] name cities in these states as shining examples of nice safe places to live. Odd. If you want to be [I]safe[/I] from gun crime...why not live somewhere near Los Angeles? Or Chicago? Or Washington DC? What about San Francisco or Oakland? These are all cities with strict limitations or even outright bans on the possession of the handguns. These are places where trained and law abiding citizens are arbitrarily [I]denied[/I] the right to licensed concealed carry. According to [I]your[/I] logic...shouldnt [I]these[/I] be the nice, safe cities to live in? How could anyone [I]possibly[/I] be safe in states like Utah or AZ or Wyoming where guns are freely available and carried? [/QUOTE]

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