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<blockquote data-quote="toonertoo" data-source="post: 1081621" data-attributes="member: 1944"><p>I had a background check, no problem, so did my husband. I had that to get a job at UPS. I actually think some people should be electronically followed. Such as pedophiles. </p><p> I have no problem with the checks and balances of owning a weapon. </p><p>Such as people who killed their grandmother with a hammer, and somehow got out of jail. These people gave up their rights, when they commit heinious crimes. What kind of a system do we own, who allowed that person to ever see the outside of a prison ever again? </p><p>A mentally ill person, on the government care list, I feel give up their rights to privacy when they are owned by the state.If they were well enough to fight for their rights this would not happen. If they were in a mental hospital which no longer exists, (except hospitals for the criminally insane, they would be monitored, and controlled, and rightly so. If we take care of them, sponsor them, feed, clothe, heat, and feed them. Whats left? They are owned. If the govt is in fact responsible for them, then also are responsible for their health, mental and otherwise. And should control what they do, after all they are dependent which means they are no longer a free person, and are not responsible for themselves. So how can we just feed them pills, pay their bills, and allow them to live free, among the rest of society? We cannot control them we are then at their mercy, then these tragic mass killings happen. Every single one had a person with mental issues off their meds. </p><p>I see where you can go with this and rightly so, but it would be hard to do it to a person like you, or I or most of us. Some people need to be put away, just a sad fact of life.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toonertoo, post: 1081621, member: 1944"] I had a background check, no problem, so did my husband. I had that to get a job at UPS. I actually think some people should be electronically followed. Such as pedophiles. I have no problem with the checks and balances of owning a weapon. Such as people who killed their grandmother with a hammer, and somehow got out of jail. These people gave up their rights, when they commit heinious crimes. What kind of a system do we own, who allowed that person to ever see the outside of a prison ever again? A mentally ill person, on the government care list, I feel give up their rights to privacy when they are owned by the state.If they were well enough to fight for their rights this would not happen. If they were in a mental hospital which no longer exists, (except hospitals for the criminally insane, they would be monitored, and controlled, and rightly so. If we take care of them, sponsor them, feed, clothe, heat, and feed them. Whats left? They are owned. If the govt is in fact responsible for them, then also are responsible for their health, mental and otherwise. And should control what they do, after all they are dependent which means they are no longer a free person, and are not responsible for themselves. So how can we just feed them pills, pay their bills, and allow them to live free, among the rest of society? We cannot control them we are then at their mercy, then these tragic mass killings happen. Every single one had a person with mental issues off their meds. I see where you can go with this and rightly so, but it would be hard to do it to a person like you, or I or most of us. Some people need to be put away, just a sad fact of life. [/QUOTE]
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