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<blockquote data-quote="roadrunner2012" data-source="post: 1133679" data-attributes="member: 40736">Good to see the deep thinkers weigh in. One would have to wonder what the reason for this is.A few points:1) Gun ownership is up, yet households owning guns is down. I suppose this means the crackpot down the street with a basement full of guns is keeping my neighborhood safe.2)Violent crime is down 75% in the last 20 years, yet gun violence is only down 39%. That would seem that gun violence is actually up, when compared to other violent crime. That doesn&#039;t seem to fit the gun lobby&#039;s argument, let&#039;s ignore that.3) More people are actually getting shot, but advanced trauma treatment saves many of those lives. <img src="http://mediamatters.org/static/images/item/wsjgunshots.JPG" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><a href="http://journals.lww.com/jtrauma/Abstract/2011/01000/Homicide,_Suicide,_and_Unintentional_Firearm.35.aspx" target="_blank">Homicide, Suicide, and Unintentional Firearm Fatality: Compa... : The Journal of Trauma and Acute Care Surgery</a>The rate of gun homicide in the United States still far outpaces other&nbsp; high-income nations, which typically have strong gun laws. A 2003 study&nbsp; by Hemenway that compared the United States to other member countries of&nbsp; the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development found&nbsp; that the firearm homicide rate in the United States is <a href="http://journals.lww.com/jtrauma/Abstract/2011/01000/Homicide,_Suicide,_and_Unintentional_Firearm.35.aspx" target="_blank">19.5 times the average</a> of&nbsp; other high-income countries.* This disparity contributed to an overall&nbsp; homicide rate 6.9 times higher than other high-income nations.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="roadrunner2012, post: 1133679, member: 40736"] Good to see the deep thinkers weigh in. One would have to wonder what the reason for this is. A few points: 1) Gun ownership is up, yet households owning guns is down. I suppose this means the crackpot down the street with a basement full of guns is keeping my neighborhood safe. 2)Violent crime is down 75% in the last 20 years, yet gun violence is only down 39%. That would seem that gun violence is actually up, when compared to other violent crime. That doesn't seem to fit the gun lobby's argument, let's ignore that. 3) More people are actually getting shot, but advanced trauma treatment saves many of those lives. [img]http://mediamatters.org/static/images/item/wsjgunshots.JPG[/img] [url=http://journals.lww.com/jtrauma/Abstract/2011/01000/Homicide,_Suicide,_and_Unintentional_Firearm.35.aspx]Homicide, Suicide, and Unintentional Firearm Fatality: Compa... : The Journal of Trauma and Acute Care Surgery[/url] The rate of gun homicide in the United States still far outpaces other high-income nations, which typically have strong gun laws. A 2003 study by Hemenway that compared the United States to other member countries of the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development found that the firearm homicide rate in the United States is [URL="http://journals.lww.com/jtrauma/Abstract/2011/01000/Homicide,_Suicide,_and_Unintentional_Firearm.35.aspx"]19.5 times the average[/URL] of other high-income countries.* This disparity contributed to an overall homicide rate 6.9 times higher than other high-income nations. [/QUOTE]

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