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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1221930" data-attributes="member: 14668">I tend to think that unstable people who formulate a premeditated intent to commit mass murder are going to find a way to obtain guns regardless of what sort of background checks or psychiatric profiles are done.The problem I have with the people who want to pass laws to prevent gun violence is that they are entirely one-sided in their approach. They want to take the guns away from everybody. They only want to talk about the ease with which the murderers were able to obtain their weapons, while overlooking the fact that virtually 100% of the victims of their crimes were by law unarmed and unable to fight back due to the same laws that were somehow supposed to protect them. The people who are so gung-ho for ever more restrictive laws naively cling to the ludicrous proposition that we will all be somehow be safer if the good guys are unarmed. I dont buy that proposition.bbsam, lets do a little philosophical wheeling and dealing. You want tougher laws, more training, background checks etc prior to buying a gun. Fine. In exchange for all that....would you agree to a Federal requirement for &quot;shall issue&quot; concealed carry permits in all 50 states, as well as full 50-state reciprocity for all concealed handgun licenses and a nationwide repeal of all restrictions on high capacity magazines for those who have completed the training and background checks that you advocate? Or are you one of those people who thinks that &quot;compromise&quot; and &quot;reasonable&quot; laws only go in one direction?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1221930, member: 14668"] I tend to think that unstable people who formulate a premeditated intent to commit mass murder are going to find a way to obtain guns [I]regardless[/I] of what sort of background checks or psychiatric profiles are done. The problem I have with the people who want to pass laws to prevent gun violence is that they are entirely one-sided in their approach. They want to take the guns away from [I]everybody. [/I]They [I]only[/I] want to talk about the ease with which the [I]murderers[/I] were able to obtain their weapons, while overlooking the fact that virtually 100% of the [I]victims [/I]of their crimes were by law [I]unarmed[/I] and [I]unable[/I] to fight back due to the [I]same[/I] laws that were somehow supposed to protect them. The people who are so gung-ho for ever more restrictive laws naively cling to the ludicrous proposition that we will [I]all[/I] be somehow be safer if the good guys are [I]un[/I]armed. I dont buy that proposition. bbsam, lets do a little philosophical wheeling and dealing. You want tougher laws, more training, background checks etc prior to buying a gun. Fine. In exchange for all that....would you agree to a Federal requirement for "shall issue" concealed carry permits [I]in all 50 states[/I], as well as full 50-state reciprocity for [I]all[/I] concealed handgun licenses and a nationwide repeal of [I]all[/I] restrictions on high capacity magazines for those who have completed the training and background checks that you advocate? Or are you one of those people who thinks that "compromise" and "reasonable" laws only go in [I]one[/I] direction? [/QUOTE]

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