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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1274839" data-attributes="member: 14668">A properly trained guard/attack dog represents an investment of many thousands of dollars, and can easily be defeated by a thug armed with a stolen/ illegally obtained $100 pistol.Security doors and barred windows represent an investment of thousands of dollars and can easily be defeated by a criminal with basic burglar tools.Martial arts training represents an investment of many thousands of dollars, and can easily be defeated by a thug with a stolen gun, an edged weapon, or an advantage in numbers. What suggestions do you offer for the elderly? For the handicapped? For women with abusive ex boyfriends that outweigh them by 100 lbs? For people in rural areas with 45 minute response times to a 911 call? For people who simply cannot afford thousands of dollars for dogs and bars and alarms and membership in exclusive gated communities?If you want to bring your dog and a pair of fists to a gunfight with an armed assailant, by all means do so. If you want to call armed representatives of your nanny-state government to come and protect you and your family from an armed assailant, by all means do so. Best of luck to you!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1274839, member: 14668"] A properly trained guard/attack dog represents an investment of many thousands of dollars, and can easily be defeated by a thug armed with a stolen/ illegally obtained $100 pistol. Security doors and barred windows represent an investment of thousands of dollars and can easily be defeated by a criminal with basic burglar tools. Martial arts training represents an investment of many thousands of dollars, and can easily be defeated by a thug with a stolen gun, an edged weapon, or an advantage in numbers. What suggestions do you offer for the elderly? For the handicapped? For women with abusive ex boyfriends that outweigh them by 100 lbs? For people in rural areas with 45 minute response times to a 911 call? For people who simply cannot afford thousands of dollars for dogs and bars and alarms and membership in exclusive gated communities? If you want to bring your dog and a pair of fists to a gunfight with an armed assailant, by all means do so. If you want to call armed representatives of your nanny-state government to come and protect you and your family from an armed assailant, by all means do so. Best of luck to you! [/QUOTE]

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