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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1287020" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>You are wrong on many counts. Lets start with your premise that Switzerland has a standing army. The official army of Switzerland makes up only 5% of the entire militia system. All able bodied males are required to join the militia.</p><p></p><p>They do in fact, get assigned weapons, they do in fact get to keep those weapons "at the ready", but where you ERR is this.</p><p></p><p>In 2007, they NO LONGER GET TO HAVE AMMO AT HOME.</p><p></p><p>ALL AMMO must be kept in the "ARMORY" and in some cases, so do weapons. Just because they have their militia assigned weapons, they have NO BULLETS.</p><p></p><p>Like I said, you need to do better research on the subject rather than just repeating some ridiculous rhetoric from the NRA types.</p><p></p><p>I would welcome a system where we "mirrored" Switzerland, and allowed you gun people to own guns without bullets.</p><p></p><p>Sounds like a winning plan.</p><p></p><p>excerpt:</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>Army-issued arms and ammunition collection success[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gun_politics_in_Switzerland&action=edit&section=1" target="_blank">edit</a>]</strong></span></p><p>The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_army" target="_blank">Swiss army</a> has long been a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia" target="_blank">militia</a> trained and structured to rapidly respond against foreign aggression. Swiss males grow up expecting to undergo basic military training, usually at age 20 in the <em>Rekrutenschule</em> (recruit school), the basic-training camp, after which Swiss men remain part of the "militia" in reserve capacity until age 30 (age 34 for officers).</p><p></p><p>Each soldier is required to keep his army-issued personal weapon (the 5.56x45mm <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sig_550" target="_blank">Sig 550</a> rifle for enlisted personnel and/or the 9mm <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_P220" target="_blank">SIG P220</a> semi-automatic pistol for officers, military police, medical and postal personnel) at home or (as of 2010) in the local armoury (Zeughaus). Up until October 2007, ammunition (50 rounds 5.56 mm / 48 rounds 9mm) was issued as well, which was sealed and inspected regularly to ensure that no unauthorized use had taken place.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland#cite_note-ammo-range-4" target="_blank">[4]</a> The ammunition was intended for use while travelling to the army barracks in case of invasion.</p><p></p><p>In October 2007, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Federal_Council" target="_blank">Swiss Federal Council</a> decided that the distribution of ammunition to soldiers shall stop and that all previously issued ammo shall be returned. By March 2011, more than 99% of the ammo has been received. Only special rapid deployment units and the military police still store ammunition at home today.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland#cite_note-nzz-ammo-5" target="_blank">[5]</a></p><p></p><p>When their period of service has ended, militiamen have the choice of keeping their personal weapon and other selected items of their equipment.[<em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" target="_blank">citation needed</a></em>] Keeping the weapon after end of service requires a license.</p><p></p><p>The government sponsors training with rifles and shooting in competitions for interested adolescents, both male and female.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1287020, member: 17969"] You are wrong on many counts. Lets start with your premise that Switzerland has a standing army. The official army of Switzerland makes up only 5% of the entire militia system. All able bodied males are required to join the militia. They do in fact, get assigned weapons, they do in fact get to keep those weapons "at the ready", but where you ERR is this. In 2007, they NO LONGER GET TO HAVE AMMO AT HOME. ALL AMMO must be kept in the "ARMORY" and in some cases, so do weapons. Just because they have their militia assigned weapons, they have NO BULLETS. Like I said, you need to do better research on the subject rather than just repeating some ridiculous rhetoric from the NRA types. I would welcome a system where we "mirrored" Switzerland, and allowed you gun people to own guns without bullets. Sounds like a winning plan. excerpt: [SIZE=5][B]Army-issued arms and ammunition collection success[[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gun_politics_in_Switzerland&action=edit§ion=1']edit[/URL]][/B][/SIZE] The [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_army']Swiss army[/URL] has long been a [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia']militia[/URL] trained and structured to rapidly respond against foreign aggression. Swiss males grow up expecting to undergo basic military training, usually at age 20 in the [I]Rekrutenschule[/I] (recruit school), the basic-training camp, after which Swiss men remain part of the "militia" in reserve capacity until age 30 (age 34 for officers). Each soldier is required to keep his army-issued personal weapon (the 5.56x45mm [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sig_550']Sig 550[/URL] rifle for enlisted personnel and/or the 9mm [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_P220']SIG P220[/URL] semi-automatic pistol for officers, military police, medical and postal personnel) at home or (as of 2010) in the local armoury (Zeughaus). Up until October 2007, ammunition (50 rounds 5.56 mm / 48 rounds 9mm) was issued as well, which was sealed and inspected regularly to ensure that no unauthorized use had taken place.[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland#cite_note-ammo-range-4'][4][/URL] The ammunition was intended for use while travelling to the army barracks in case of invasion. In October 2007, the [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Federal_Council']Swiss Federal Council[/URL] decided that the distribution of ammunition to soldiers shall stop and that all previously issued ammo shall be returned. By March 2011, more than 99% of the ammo has been received. Only special rapid deployment units and the military police still store ammunition at home today.[URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland#cite_note-nzz-ammo-5'][5][/URL] When their period of service has ended, militiamen have the choice of keeping their personal weapon and other selected items of their equipment.[[I][URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed']citation needed[/URL][/I]] Keeping the weapon after end of service requires a license. The government sponsors training with rifles and shooting in competitions for interested adolescents, both male and female. [/QUOTE]
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