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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1318134" data-attributes="member: 14668">Not that you would ever let facts override emotion, but you should do some research and look up&nbsp; the violent crime rate among people who are licensed to carry concealed weapons.In my state for example, 1 out of every 15 people currently holds a valid Concealed Handgun License. Would you care to take a guess at how many murders have been committed in the last 25 years by people who hold Oregon Concealed Handgun Licenses? The answer...ZERO. We are talking about a group of several hundred thousand gun owners, over a period of a quarter century, and there have been ZERO murders committed by this group. So TOS...I&#039;m glad you and I agree on &quot;letting the training and licensing do the talking&quot; and I am glad you have finally accepted the fact that trained, licensed, law-abiding gun owners are part of the SOLUTION to the problem of mass shootings in &quot;gun free&quot; zones. Way to go, TOS, you have finally seen the light!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1318134, member: 14668"] Not that you would ever let facts override emotion, but you should do some research and look up the violent crime rate among people who are licensed to carry concealed weapons. In my state for example, 1 out of every 15 people currently holds a valid Concealed Handgun License. Would you care to take a guess at how many murders have been committed in the last 25 years by people who hold Oregon Concealed Handgun Licenses? The answer...ZERO. We are talking about a group of several hundred thousand gun owners, over a period of a quarter century, and there have been ZERO murders committed by this group. So TOS...I'm glad you and I agree on "letting the training and licensing do the talking" and I am glad you have finally accepted the fact that trained, licensed, law-abiding gun owners are part of the SOLUTION to the problem of mass shootings in "gun free" zones. Way to go, TOS, you have finally seen the light! [/QUOTE]

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