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<blockquote data-quote="bbsam" data-source="post: 2016785" data-attributes="member: 22662">You keep wanting to talk about marriage.&nbsp;&nbsp; You say you didn&#039;t bring it up.&nbsp; I assure you that I didn&#039;t.&nbsp;&nbsp; Now if you&#039;re referring that as a case of suggesting that is legislating from the bench, well, how can that be?&nbsp; As you said,&nbsp; marriage has to be.left a state issue and therefore the entire idea of DOMA should have been unconstitutional from day one.&nbsp; And the Court made a ruling on gay marriage in one case recently.&nbsp; I think a couple states have resisted. A judge in Alabama (?) a county clerk in Kentucky. But for the most part, the country seems ready to move on.&nbsp; But if what you are saying is that states have the right to discriminate and treat certain citizens as second class because the 10th Amendment says they can, then you are wrong.&nbsp; It&#039;s unfortunate that something like the Civil Rights movement ever had to take place.&nbsp; It&#039;s ludicrous that the federal government ever passed DOMA in the first place.&nbsp; That the citizens of individual states feel qualified to subjugate &quot;others&quot; to &quot;less than&quot; status because of the 10th Amendment is a grotesque twisting of the liberty that America has always proclaimed.&nbsp; It really is too bad it takes the Supreme Court to decide that for us.I&#039;m ashamed that in 2016 this even has to be explained to my fellow countrymen.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bbsam, post: 2016785, member: 22662"] You keep wanting to talk about marriage. You say you didn't bring it up. I assure you that I didn't. Now if you're referring that as a case of suggesting that is legislating from the bench, well, how can that be? As you said, marriage has to be.left a state issue and therefore the entire idea of DOMA should have been unconstitutional from day one. And the Court made a ruling on gay marriage in one case recently. I think a couple states have resisted. A judge in Alabama (?) a county clerk in Kentucky. But for the most part, the country seems ready to move on. But if what you are saying is that states have the right to discriminate and treat certain citizens as second class because the 10th Amendment says they can, then you are wrong. It's unfortunate that something like the Civil Rights movement ever had to take place. It's ludicrous that the federal government ever passed DOMA in the first place. That the citizens of individual states feel qualified to subjugate "others" to "less than" status because of the 10th Amendment is a grotesque twisting of the liberty that America has always proclaimed. It really is too bad it takes the Supreme Court to decide that for us. I'm ashamed that in 2016 this even has to be explained to my fellow countrymen. [/QUOTE]

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