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Message: <blockquote data-quote="newfie" data-source="post: 3378821" data-attributes="member: 58700">which has nothing to do with the point you responded to. Nor your attempt to mock him buy calling him gramps. it takes 4 to 5 minutes for police to respond to a shooting . the average shooting last 3 minutes. we have seen with this shooting that there is no guarantee that an armed paid on duty officer will risk their life. you libs made these schools shooting galleries when you proudly proclaimed them gun free zones. the armed and trained concept worked great with sky marshals and FFDO's. are you really saying there are not some teachers who could qualify and do a good job carrying a weapon?</blockquote>