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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 957353" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>At times it would seem that way because when it comes to "standing your ground" it seems that right with some here don't apply. Now if he had had a gun but then he'd be an even bigger thug. A brother just can win can he?</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p></p><p>And before some of you come screaming, on the night Trayvon was killed, what crime had he committed that would disqualify his own standing with the stand you ground law. What had he done that violated a local law or statute that made him a criminal in the eyes of the law and forbade him the right of self defense when he noticed Zimmerman acting in a possible threatening manner to him? How did Trayvon not know that Zimmerman was following him for the purpose of robbery or being a teenage boy, was Zimmerman some type of sexual predator? Could Trayvon be justified in asking those questions to himself in the moment all this went down?</p><p></p><p>Could both Zimmerman and Trayvon have thought very wrong of one another and the confrontation was a result of that and it went badly wrong? Sadly Trayvon is not here to tell his side of this so we are sadly disadvantaged at getting to the actual truth of the situation. Even the witnesses, regardless of how they place the 2 don't come into the mix until after the confrontation had begun so we don't know what was said other than from Zimmerman. This probably won't square with either side but I think the best place for this is in civil court and let Martin's parents sue Zimmerman for all he's worth. Zimmerman may not be a murderer but I still think he acted irresponsible and probably let his "cop wanna-be" mentality get the better of him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 957353, member: 2189"] At times it would seem that way because when it comes to "standing your ground" it seems that right with some here don't apply. Now if he had had a gun but then he'd be an even bigger thug. A brother just can win can he? :wink2: And before some of you come screaming, on the night Trayvon was killed, what crime had he committed that would disqualify his own standing with the stand you ground law. What had he done that violated a local law or statute that made him a criminal in the eyes of the law and forbade him the right of self defense when he noticed Zimmerman acting in a possible threatening manner to him? How did Trayvon not know that Zimmerman was following him for the purpose of robbery or being a teenage boy, was Zimmerman some type of sexual predator? Could Trayvon be justified in asking those questions to himself in the moment all this went down? Could both Zimmerman and Trayvon have thought very wrong of one another and the confrontation was a result of that and it went badly wrong? Sadly Trayvon is not here to tell his side of this so we are sadly disadvantaged at getting to the actual truth of the situation. Even the witnesses, regardless of how they place the 2 don't come into the mix until after the confrontation had begun so we don't know what was said other than from Zimmerman. This probably won't square with either side but I think the best place for this is in civil court and let Martin's parents sue Zimmerman for all he's worth. Zimmerman may not be a murderer but I still think he acted irresponsible and probably let his "cop wanna-be" mentality get the better of him. [/QUOTE]
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