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Message: <blockquote data-quote="trplnkl" data-source="post: 957426" data-attributes="member: 13254"> Here is a FACT that you choose to ignore....not at one point have I defended Zimmerman. I have only pointed out that YOU DO NOT know all the details of this case... THAT IS AN INDISPUTABLE FACT. I do not know all the details either. Does it really make a difference what the lead detective said ? The words he spoke were his opinion. He may well be right but he could be wrong, IDK. Yep. the DA's not prosecuting the case before ALL details and FACTS are known is another story. And yes, I need much more than an investigators knee jerk reactions and speculations before I call Zimmerman a liar. Do you know the "lead investigator" has had two trial acquittals due to faulty investigations?    You may be right that the FBIs ballistic and trajectory will prove Trayvon was murdered, but so far that hasn't happened. I actually doubt that those tests will prove murder but they will show  approximately how close they were at the time of the shooting, a point that as far as I know is not in question.  Really, you think the FACTS are out??? That must be because your handlers have told you these are the facts, even though there are other facts that don't fit YOUR facts.  YOUR facts:(1)FACT, a phoney 911 call was placed.(2)FACT, zimmerman exaggerates the call to increase the urgency(3)FACT, zimmerman tells police Trayvon is on Drugs without proof.(4)FACT, zimmerman makes a racial slur while on the phone referring to Trayvon as a "coon"(5)FACT, zimmerman chases Trayvon and when told TWICE to stop, he continues anyways armed with a semi automatic pistol.(6)FACT, zimmerman engages Trayvon and a fight breaks out, zimmerman at some point shoots the kid.(1) How is this a phoney 911 call? Zimmerman as part of a neighborhood watch saw what he deemed to be a suspicious person dressed in a hoodie (in Florida on a warm night), walking around and stopping to look around. (2)What were Zimmerman's exaggerations? Exactly what part is exaggerated? (3)In the part of the 911 call that I heard on ABC news, Zimmerman did not say anyone was on drugs. I did hear him say the person was acting strangely ( a point of opinion) and was POSSIBLY on drugs. So you are twisting the truth here....AKA lying. (4) I personally have not heard this part of the 911 tape so I can give no opinion on what it sounds like. I have read somewhere that that part was misunderstood and meant something else. I also know nothing of the street language used in that area. (5) From all that I have heard (again on ABC news) Zimmerman followed (not chased) Trayvon and when turning around to retreat, Trayvon rushed him. I do not know what is the truth here, and NEITHER DO YOU. (6) according to witness accounts, it was Trayvon that engaged Zimmerman. Again, I was not there and did not see what happened. AND NEITHER WERE YOU. and THAT is a FACT.  What more do I need to know? Since you nor I do not know anything other than what we have read or heard from the media, I will reserve the right to NOT judge someone guilty when I do not have indisputable facts.  What YOU can not escape is that the "sworn affidavit"  by the lead investigator was his opinion based on a single interview from someone who had just been involved in a shooting that lead to someone's death. I guess you think this lead detective in the one and only honest person in that county and is always 100% correct in his assessment. Oh and BTW, above when I said "Do you know the "lead investigator" has had two trial acquittals due to faulty investigations?", that is a complete fabrication of the truth. I only said that to show that you are not the only one that can make <img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> up. </blockquote>

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