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<blockquote data-quote="Bubblehead" data-source="post: 1612009" data-attributes="member: 14176">I would still love to know where the actuaries predicted the Central States Health Care Fund to be 5, 10 or 15 years down the road without the massive infusion it got with this contract?We have covered the difference between the Central States Pension Fund and the Central States Healthcare Fund ad nauseam.While I realize that there is a difference in the two, I find it hard to believe that there weren&#039;t similar dynamics in play.The bar graph circulating in regards to participation in the Central Region Pension shows the disparity between active participants and retirees, retirees greatly outnumbering active participants. I am probably the exception, but if this is what was needed to save healthcare for our union as a whole, I think I would have chose to be a martyr.I just have a huge problem when someone pisses on my shoes and then tries to convince me that it is raining.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bubblehead, post: 1612009, member: 14176"] I would still love to know where the actuaries predicted the Central States Health Care Fund to be 5, 10 or 15 years down the road without the massive infusion it got with this contract? We have covered the difference between the Central States Pension Fund and the Central States Healthcare Fund ad nauseam. While I realize that there is a difference in the two, I find it hard to believe that there weren't similar dynamics in play. The bar graph circulating in regards to participation in the Central Region Pension shows the disparity between active participants and retirees, retirees greatly outnumbering active participants. I am probably the exception, but if this is what was needed to save healthcare for our union as a whole, I think I would have chose to be a martyr. I just have a huge problem when someone pisses on my shoes and then tries to convince me that it is raining. [/QUOTE]

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