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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dustyroads" data-source="post: 663389" data-attributes="member: 22610"><p>Upstate, although you may assert that there is no way that this could be an EC, I think our center manager would disagree. Last winter we had a guy try a drive just like this one, all of the paved roads were nice and dry, so I assume that the people who stay on the pavement could see no reason that EC might apply. Anyway, the package car made it about 80% up the drive before completely losing traction, and then sliding down, backwards, until it slid down into a deep ditch on one side, bending a front A arm, breaking the front shock, required two wreckers to extract it from the drive. The topic of the next morning meeting....You are professional drivers, don't you know when EC applies????</p></blockquote><p></p>