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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bacha29" data-source="post: 5018429" data-attributes="member: 58386">Don't need to here because I see a lot of preaching, expounding on the virtues of conservatism but nothing in the way of it being practiced. Being true to the convictions and ideology of conservatism requires the procurement of a considerable amount of personal wealth over the course of a person's working lifetime. in order to pay for ones future needs without the need for any direct or indirect assistance from any government social program. Now have you or have you not independently acquired an amount of personal wealth sufficient  to independently meet your future needs ? If you did not or could not despite your best efforts that's not a negative reflection on you but be glad that safety nets are there to help you today despite bitter opposition from so called 'conservatives"  who never offer an alternative solution.</blockquote>