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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1153657" data-attributes="member: 17969">How nice of you to repeat the talking points of Marco Rubio.  Unfortunately, you dont have the facts.  Yes, you have the talking points, but not the reality.  Marco Rubio himself got into trouble when he was on spanish radio and he said :"Sen. Marco Rubio, the leading Republican behind the Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform bill, says he “probably should have been more artful in the use of terms” when he said in a <a href="http://washingtonexaminer.com/rubio-in-immigration-reform-legalization-comes-first-it-is-not-conditional/article/2531504" target="_blank">Spanish-language interview</a> last weekend that the bill first provides for legalization of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., and then, after that, for increased border security."<a href="http://washingtonexaminer.com/marco-rubio-i-should-have-been-more-artful-in-immigration-remarks/article/2531760" target="_blank">Marco Rubio: I should have been 'more artful' in immigration remarks | WashingtonExaminer.com</a>THE GOP lost its mind when he "goofed" on this explanation.  HE has since tried to "walk this back".   Moreover, the immigration problem, according to marco rubio, could be solved if we just secured our southern borders.  He states :"if we just secure our southern border, we wont have to revisit the immigration issue 5 or 10 years down the road"..~Marco Rubio.Really?  In other words, if we lock down the southern borders, the immigration problem will be solved.   UMM, not true.  The problem with the immigration is that the talking heads of the GOP keep misrepresenting the causes of illegal immigration.  Lets look at some numbers from the department of homeland security.41% of immigrants come here on tourist visas that expire and they dont go home and BECOME ILLEGAL.19% of immigrants come here on Student visas that expire and they dont go home and BECOME ILLEGAL.17% of immigrants come here on Worker visas that expire and the dont go home and BECOME ILLEGAL.Thats 77% of illegal immigration that has NOTHING to do with any of our three borders.That leaves 23% of illegal immigration that comes across the borders and if you break that down by borders, the numbers come out like this:7% come across the canadian border illegally.  9% come into florida or the east coast illegally.7% come into the southwest states illegally.So, if we are to understand MARCO RUBIOS claims, if we just lock down our southern borders we will NOT have to revisit the illegal immigration issue in a few years.  So, doing the math, if we stop the 7% coming across the southern borders, then all our problems with immigration will be solved.LIFER, you have to try to understand the complexities of illegal immigration and understand that the MAJORITY of people who are Illegal in this country came here LEGALLY first, then became ILLEGAL.41% come here on a tourist visa, which means they get off planes, buses or simply drive across our borders with a smile on their faces.  When the VISA expires, they dont go home.  They just blend into the crowd.  There is no mechanism to stop this.  There never has been.  You can put soldiers arm in arm from texas to california and you wont make a DENT in the influx of illegal aliens into this country.As long as people can come into the country on visas and not leave, you will always have millions of illegal aliens living here.YOU can cling to the hopes of talking points by Marco Rubio, who is nothing more than a TOOL, but doing what he says wont have any effect on the illegal alien problem in this country.peaceTOS</blockquote>

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