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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 946822" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>%</p><p></p><p>I find it amuzing myself when people like you say silly things about immigration. As if 12 million mexicans are walking across the desert every year.... You havent the first clue on immigration or its root causes other than the HYPE you hear from your favorite TALKING HEADS.</p><p></p><p>Heres a little FYI for you to digest.</p><p></p><p>First, lets deal with facts. According to the latest HOMELAND SECURITY DEPARTMENT:</p><p></p><p>41% of all illegal aliens come to america on tourists visas and overstay the visa and become illegal. This means they simply get off planes and buses, pick up their luggage and go to their new homes.</p><p>19% of all illegal aliens come to america on student visas and overstay the visa and become illegal, just ask Michele Malkins parents.</p><p>15% of all illegal aliens come to america on GUEST WORKER VISAS and overstay the visa and become illegal.</p><p></p><p>That represents 75% of the illegal immigration problem. Leaving 25% for the remainder of illegal aliens, but wait, you have to divide that 25% by the northern canada border (9%), then the east coast (7%) leaving 9% for california, arizona, new mexico and texas combined. Then , you have to divide that 9% by 4 leaving a whopping 2.25% for each state respectively.</p><p></p><p>All this nonsense about arizona and they only represent 2.25% of illegal crossings each year.</p><p></p><p>But wait, how did thousands of mexicans get into arizona then if its only 2.25% each year???</p><p></p><p>That easy, just ask ANY REPUBLICAN IN THE SENATE, especially JOHN McCAIN or Mitch McConnell.. Its called THE GUEST WORKER VISA. ARIZONA is its own problem, it issues close to a million guest worker visas each year and those workers NEVER LEAVE THE STATE and return to MEXICO.</p><p></p><p>Jan Brewer only has JAN BREWER to blame for it. Its the REPUBLICANS who keep calling for MORE GUEST WORKER VISAS TO BE ISSUED knowing FULL WELL those workers will NEVER GO HOME.</p><p></p><p>The excuses you just made are just that, EXCUSES in the form of TALKING POINTS. Why not try FACTS for a change?</p><p></p><p>Why not truly understand that even if you built DUAL 100 foot walls with electricity running at the top, attack dogs in between, the marines on our side of the walls, you would NOT MAKE A DENT in ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION??</p><p></p><p>YOU would only be affecting 2.25% of the problem and spent TRILLIONS on security, while 75% of the illegal aliens fly overhead in an airplane shouting down as they fly over "meda esto pendejos en la tierra"</p><p></p><p>This is the real immigration problem. VISAS. We have no logical mechanism to address the overstayed visa or MICHELE MALKIN wouldnt be a citizen today.</p><p></p><p>Get serious bro.</p><p></p><p>Peace.</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 946822, member: 17969"] % I find it amuzing myself when people like you say silly things about immigration. As if 12 million mexicans are walking across the desert every year.... You havent the first clue on immigration or its root causes other than the HYPE you hear from your favorite TALKING HEADS. Heres a little FYI for you to digest. First, lets deal with facts. According to the latest HOMELAND SECURITY DEPARTMENT: 41% of all illegal aliens come to america on tourists visas and overstay the visa and become illegal. This means they simply get off planes and buses, pick up their luggage and go to their new homes. 19% of all illegal aliens come to america on student visas and overstay the visa and become illegal, just ask Michele Malkins parents. 15% of all illegal aliens come to america on GUEST WORKER VISAS and overstay the visa and become illegal. That represents 75% of the illegal immigration problem. Leaving 25% for the remainder of illegal aliens, but wait, you have to divide that 25% by the northern canada border (9%), then the east coast (7%) leaving 9% for california, arizona, new mexico and texas combined. Then , you have to divide that 9% by 4 leaving a whopping 2.25% for each state respectively. All this nonsense about arizona and they only represent 2.25% of illegal crossings each year. But wait, how did thousands of mexicans get into arizona then if its only 2.25% each year??? That easy, just ask ANY REPUBLICAN IN THE SENATE, especially JOHN McCAIN or Mitch McConnell.. Its called THE GUEST WORKER VISA. ARIZONA is its own problem, it issues close to a million guest worker visas each year and those workers NEVER LEAVE THE STATE and return to MEXICO. Jan Brewer only has JAN BREWER to blame for it. Its the REPUBLICANS who keep calling for MORE GUEST WORKER VISAS TO BE ISSUED knowing FULL WELL those workers will NEVER GO HOME. The excuses you just made are just that, EXCUSES in the form of TALKING POINTS. Why not try FACTS for a change? Why not truly understand that even if you built DUAL 100 foot walls with electricity running at the top, attack dogs in between, the marines on our side of the walls, you would NOT MAKE A DENT in ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION?? YOU would only be affecting 2.25% of the problem and spent TRILLIONS on security, while 75% of the illegal aliens fly overhead in an airplane shouting down as they fly over "meda esto pendejos en la tierra" This is the real immigration problem. VISAS. We have no logical mechanism to address the overstayed visa or MICHELE MALKIN wouldnt be a citizen today. Get serious bro. Peace. TOS [/QUOTE]
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