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<blockquote data-quote="trplnkl" data-source="post: 965597" data-attributes="member: 13254"><p><span style="color: #8b4513"><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms'"><em><strong></strong></em></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #8b4513"><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms'"><em><strong>Oh give me a huge break and get off the "talking point" crap, it's nothing but hyperbole rhetoric and you are just as bad, if not worse, than you claim the right to be. </strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #8b4513"><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms'"><em><strong> You ask for solutions to to the illegal immigration problem and when an idea is presented, you try to discount the idea as talking points without pointing out what you think is wrong with the idea. Although I give you credit for sticking with the left wing manifesto. </strong></em></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #8b4513"><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms'"><em><strong>Tell me what is wrong with what I posted instead of trying to discount it as " talking points", that means nothing. </strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #8b4513"><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms'"><em><strong></strong></em></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #8b4513"><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms'"><em><strong>As far as how to catch, process and deport tens of millons out of the country, the answer, in part, is to not only to empower states to help but to solicit them to do so. Instead of stopping states from enacting laws to compliment the federal laws, give them the teeth to enforce them. Of course it would be near to impossible to even identify find all tens of million of the illegal aliens here, let alone at once. I don't think anyone has suggested that we even try to deport ALL illegal aliens at once. </strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #8b4513"><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms'"><em><strong></strong></em></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #8b4513"><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms'"><em><strong>As far as the kids born to illegal aliens in the US, IMO, they should not be considered as American citizens unless one of the parents is here legally. If that requires a new amendment to the constitution, then so be it. As the constitution is interpreted today(on this point) is incorrect to the intent IMO, but I am not a SCotUS judge and do not claim to be an authority. But the question is what to do with the children (born on US soil) of illegal aliens. My solution, in part, (which I already know you won't agree with) would be to allow the adult offspring(born here)to stay if they are proven self sufficient. The minor children will go back with their parents, once the child reaches the age of adulthood they are moved to the head of the line(better yet, start a new line) for re-entry to the US if they choose to do so, with all fees waved with provided proof of being born here. </strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #8b4513"><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms'"><em><strong></strong></em></span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #8b4513"><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms'"><em><strong>How to pay for it? We could start with the 20 plus Billion dollars we send to Mexico. Since Mexican citizens are around 30% of the illegal aliens here we could deduct 6 Billion to help pay for the plan. We also already know that a large portion come here from other counties through Mexico, IMO Mexico should be held responsible for their presence here as well as the Mexican illegal aliens. That should deduct a few more Billion from US aide to Mexico. This would be a good start to financing illegal immigration control. Stricter control of over stayed visas (although a different problem) would help as well. </strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #8b4513"><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms'"><em><strong></strong></em></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #8b4513"><span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms'"><em><strong>Is this a perfect and complete plan? Oh hell no! This represents a few random, but serious thoughts on the situation. </strong></em></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trplnkl, post: 965597, member: 13254"] [COLOR=#8b4513][FONT=comic sans ms][I][B] Oh give me a huge break and get off the "talking point" crap, it's nothing but hyperbole rhetoric and you are just as bad, if not worse, than you claim the right to be. You ask for solutions to to the illegal immigration problem and when an idea is presented, you try to discount the idea as talking points without pointing out what you think is wrong with the idea. Although I give you credit for sticking with the left wing manifesto. Tell me what is wrong with what I posted instead of trying to discount it as " talking points", that means nothing. As far as how to catch, process and deport tens of millons out of the country, the answer, in part, is to not only to empower states to help but to solicit them to do so. Instead of stopping states from enacting laws to compliment the federal laws, give them the teeth to enforce them. Of course it would be near to impossible to even identify find all tens of million of the illegal aliens here, let alone at once. I don't think anyone has suggested that we even try to deport ALL illegal aliens at once. As far as the kids born to illegal aliens in the US, IMO, they should not be considered as American citizens unless one of the parents is here legally. If that requires a new amendment to the constitution, then so be it. As the constitution is interpreted today(on this point) is incorrect to the intent IMO, but I am not a SCotUS judge and do not claim to be an authority. But the question is what to do with the children (born on US soil) of illegal aliens. My solution, in part, (which I already know you won't agree with) would be to allow the adult offspring(born here)to stay if they are proven self sufficient. The minor children will go back with their parents, once the child reaches the age of adulthood they are moved to the head of the line(better yet, start a new line) for re-entry to the US if they choose to do so, with all fees waved with provided proof of being born here. How to pay for it? We could start with the 20 plus Billion dollars we send to Mexico. Since Mexican citizens are around 30% of the illegal aliens here we could deduct 6 Billion to help pay for the plan. We also already know that a large portion come here from other counties through Mexico, IMO Mexico should be held responsible for their presence here as well as the Mexican illegal aliens. That should deduct a few more Billion from US aide to Mexico. This would be a good start to financing illegal immigration control. Stricter control of over stayed visas (although a different problem) would help as well. Is this a perfect and complete plan? Oh hell no! This represents a few random, but serious thoughts on the situation. [/B][/I][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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