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<blockquote data-quote="brett636" data-source="post: 810684" data-attributes="member: 249">Thinking things through is not one of your strong points is it?Tell ya what, when the next contract negotiations come up lets demand a&nbsp; $10/hr. wage increase for every employee across the board every year of&nbsp; the contract.&nbsp; We could even strike for it until the company gives in,&nbsp; that is if they don&#039;t close their doors first.&nbsp; The reason we don&#039;t and&nbsp; won&#039;t make such an egregious demand is because UPS is a private company&nbsp; and comes to the negotiation table with its own money, but if we demand&nbsp; too much and it exceeds what UPS has UPS will either close its doors or&nbsp; go completely out of business when it has to price itself right out of&nbsp; the customer&#039;s ability to pay for its services.&nbsp; This effects me and my financial&nbsp; situation because now I would be out of my most valuable asset, my job.&nbsp;&nbsp; Public sector unions don&#039;t have this problem because the politicians&nbsp; they are negotiating with are coming to the table with someone else&#039;s&nbsp; money, ie taxpayer funds, and the unions also know that if they demand&nbsp; more than the politicians have they can simply use the police power of&nbsp; government to confiscate it in order to meet their demands.&nbsp; It all&nbsp; depends on how far the politicians are willing to go to court what some&nbsp; of them may see as a valuable block of voters and that is their own&nbsp; employees.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;Now now, being a resident of Illinois if you, god forbid, had to use those firearms to protect yourself and or your family you would probably still be looking at several years in prison let along the jailtime you would get shooting someone who just wants to compel those cowards to return to the capital to do their job.&nbsp; &nbsp;Yes, it looks like the children of my homestate have decided to take their ball and go home too.&nbsp; It appears there needs to be some sort of severe penalty for such a maneuver as either side can simply leave town and stop the government from doing the people&#039;s business.&nbsp; Its a shame Mitch Daniels can&#039;t take this move as some sort of resignation and resume the legislative session without them.&nbsp; &nbsp;Earlier in this thread I cited a study that shows state and federal employees both earn more than their private sector counter parts.&nbsp; What you have stated is no longer true.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brett636, post: 810684, member: 249"] Thinking things through is not one of your strong points is it? Tell ya what, when the next contract negotiations come up lets demand a $10/hr. wage increase for every employee across the board every year of the contract. We could even strike for it until the company gives in, that is if they don't close their doors first. The reason we don't and won't make such an egregious demand is because UPS is a private company and comes to the negotiation table with its own money, but if we demand too much and it exceeds what UPS has UPS will either close its doors or go completely out of business when it has to price itself right out of the customer's ability to pay for its services. This effects me and my financial situation because now I would be out of my most valuable asset, my job. Public sector unions don't have this problem because the politicians they are negotiating with are coming to the table with someone else's money, ie taxpayer funds, and the unions also know that if they demand more than the politicians have they can simply use the police power of government to confiscate it in order to meet their demands. It all depends on how far the politicians are willing to go to court what some of them may see as a valuable block of voters and that is their own employees. Now now, being a resident of Illinois if you, god forbid, had to use those firearms to protect yourself and or your family you would probably still be looking at several years in prison let along the jailtime you would get shooting someone who just wants to compel those cowards to return to the capital to do their job. Yes, it looks like the children of my homestate have decided to take their ball and go home too. It appears there needs to be some sort of severe penalty for such a maneuver as either side can simply leave town and stop the government from doing the people's business. Its a shame Mitch Daniels can't take this move as some sort of resignation and resume the legislative session without them. Earlier in this thread I cited a study that shows state and federal employees both earn more than their private sector counter parts. What you have stated is no longer true. [/QUOTE]

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