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<blockquote data-quote="804brown" data-source="post: 810873" data-attributes="member: 29553">&quot;Dole and Romney are not conservatives&quot;&nbsp; ??&nbsp; LOL!&nbsp; Bob Dole was proud he voted against Medicare&#039;s creation in 1965 I guess that is not conservative enough for YOU!&nbsp; Romney care in Mass uses the private sector to get all its people insurance, just like Obama plan does (remember the public option was taken out); that is free-market solution, not socialism.&nbsp; On France and Germany, you are very uninformed.&nbsp; Do you actually know what socialism is?&nbsp; Both Germany and France are capitalistic countries, FACT.&nbsp; Both have forms of government or socialized health care (and they love it), just like we have socialized healthcare for the elderly and our vets.&nbsp;&nbsp; Do some homework and look up Germany&#039;s healthcare system; it is one of the best in the world!(Look up T R Reid&#039;s analysis of every country&#039;s healthcare system)How could it have a rejection of the Dems ideas when the repubs in congress were at about 25% popular&nbsp; ! At the time of the elections in November, Obama was at about 48% at a time when we had 10 %&nbsp; unemployment.&nbsp; Look what happened to reagan in 1982, he and his party lost seats in congress too with a lousy economy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="804brown, post: 810873, member: 29553"] "Dole and Romney are not conservatives" ?? LOL! Bob Dole was proud he voted against Medicare's creation in 1965 I guess that is not conservative enough for YOU! Romney care in Mass uses the private sector to get all its people insurance, just like Obama plan does (remember the public option was taken out); that is free-market solution, not socialism. On France and Germany, you are very uninformed. Do you actually know what socialism is? Both Germany and France are capitalistic countries, FACT. Both have forms of government or socialized health care (and they love it), just like we have socialized healthcare for the elderly and our vets. Do some homework and look up Germany's healthcare system; it is one of the best in the world!(Look up T R Reid's analysis of every country's healthcare system) How could it have a rejection of the Dems ideas when the repubs in congress were at about 25% popular ! At the time of the elections in November, Obama was at about 48% at a time when we had 10 % unemployment. Look what happened to reagan in 1982, he and his party lost seats in congress too with a lousy economy. [/QUOTE]

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