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<blockquote data-quote="island1fox" data-source="post: 812023" data-attributes="member: 4816">A little fact of life that we are all now facing.Obama&#039;s stimulous was to keep unemployment in check and create or save millions of new jobs -particularly--shovel ready-shovel ready -shovel ready. I repeated that because that is the way it was presented.The President (not me--I am only the messinger) with his own mouth two years later told us there were no &quot;shovel ready jobs&quot;Brings us to the present major problems : Stimulous was used to pay back public sector union to keep state employees working. Because this money would eventually run out (it has) the U.S. is in major debt ,little to no jobs were created in the private sector which would have generated tax revenues in the states to keep the public sector running. Now what ??? &nbsp;Some people on this thread have no clue that it is private sector jobs --like you have at UPS --that makes the engine run.States and politicians MUST create a business growing climate to get out of this mess.Many jobs have left states and even the country because of the mentality that taxing them up to their necks is the answer. &nbsp;First reaction of the real kool aid people will be --screw them, raise their taxes, they are rich,make them pay for it, redistribute -la-la-la ---the day will come when there will be very little left to &quot;redistribute&quot; Tell me one country where socialism has worked.You want to condemn Big business and capitalism but just like gasoline --there are no VIABLE alternatives.Obama promised us that under his Presidency energy prices would skyrocket to force us into alternatives.He kept his promise --look at fuel today--(one minor problem viable alternatives still do not exist) also look at the rising prices of food,no jobs,unions protesting in the streets etc etc.Stimulous money has run out --Job creation in the Private sector is the ONLY solution. Time for all of us to wake up !!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="island1fox, post: 812023, member: 4816"] A little fact of life that we are all now facing. Obama's stimulous was to keep unemployment in check and create or save millions of new jobs -particularly--shovel ready-shovel ready -shovel ready. I repeated that because that is the way it was presented. The President (not me--I am only the messinger) with his own mouth two years later told us there were no "shovel ready jobs" Brings us to the present major problems : Stimulous was used to pay back public sector union to keep state employees working. Because this money would eventually run out (it has) the U.S. is in major debt ,little to no jobs were created in the private sector which would have generated tax revenues in the states to keep the public sector running. Now what ??? Some people on this thread have no clue that it is private sector jobs --like you have at UPS --that makes the engine run. States and politicians MUST create a business growing climate to get out of this mess. Many jobs have left states and even the country because of the mentality that taxing them up to their necks is the answer. First reaction of the real kool aid people will be --screw them, raise their taxes, they are rich,make them pay for it, redistribute -la-la-la ---the day will come when there will be very little left to "redistribute" Tell me one country where socialism has worked. You want to condemn Big business and capitalism but just like gasoline --there are no VIABLE alternatives. Obama promised us that under his Presidency energy prices would skyrocket to force us into alternatives. He kept his promise --look at fuel today--(one minor problem viable alternatives still do not exist) also look at the rising prices of food,no jobs,unions protesting in the streets etc etc. Stimulous money has run out --Job creation in the Private sector is the ONLY solution. Time for all of us to wake up !! [/QUOTE]

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