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<blockquote data-quote="804brown" data-source="post: 815918" data-attributes="member: 29553">The stimulus consisted of three parts: money to the states to stave off cuts to state jobs (teachers, cops), money for projects such as road construction (private contractors), and money for payroll reduction tax cuts. It saved or created over 4 million jobs. Was it a band aid, yes. It should have been twice the size it was ; our economy shrunk over those two yrs by about $2 trillion . The stimulus should have been $2 trillion, but was cut back to pass. &nbsp;On our &quot;high&quot; corporate taxes. LOL The effective tax rate (what they really pay) after exemptions, deferrels, tax credits, and other breaks is about 25% not the 40% we hear about. When all these perks are thrown in our corporations pay about the same if not less than most of the industrial nations.&nbsp;Manufacturing didnt &quot;leave&quot; this country.&nbsp; Greedy, unpatriotic corporate pondscum made the choice to send their factories overseas to increase profit and push those hard working people into working for the Walmart of the world.&nbsp;Union workers not only create the wealth in this country, they built this country in the middle class society we have (though might be losing)today.&nbsp; Government can create wealth by having an industrial policy that rewards the workers and not just the investors.&nbsp; Government in the right hands can be a positive for working people.&nbsp; Government in the&nbsp; hands of the rich and powerful will only work to reward themselves.&nbsp; Unfortunately we are seeing that today.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="804brown, post: 815918, member: 29553"] The stimulus consisted of three parts: money to the states to stave off cuts to state jobs (teachers, cops), money for projects such as road construction (private contractors), and money for payroll reduction tax cuts. It saved or created over 4 million jobs. Was it a band aid, yes. It should have been twice the size it was ; our economy shrunk over those two yrs by about $2 trillion . The stimulus should have been $2 trillion, but was cut back to pass. On our "high" corporate taxes. LOL The effective tax rate (what they[B] really[/B] pay) after exemptions, deferrels, tax credits, and other breaks is about 25% not the 40% we hear about. When all these perks are thrown in our corporations pay about the same if not less than most of the industrial nations. Manufacturing didnt "[B]leave[/B]" this country. Greedy, unpatriotic corporate pondscum made the [B]choice[/B] to send their factories overseas to increase profit and push those hard working people into working for the Walmart of the world. Union workers not only [B]create[/B] the wealth in this country, they [B]built[/B] this country in the middle class society we have (though might be losing)today. Government can create wealth by having an industrial policy that rewards the workers and not just the investors. Government in the right hands can be a positive for working people. Government in the hands of the rich and powerful will only work to reward themselves. Unfortunately we are seeing that today. [/QUOTE]

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