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Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
I thought donald came up with the vaccine.

Yet you got it and I didn’t.
See that is why you fall for fake news. Donald doesn’t even make vaccines or “come up” with them. Other people do and he got behind it until thinking people (his own supporters) shut him down. But Biden and the fake news loved it so much they enforced it and wanted to completely mandate it. And all Biden‘s sheep fell right in line and took a vaccine that they thought “Donald came up with.” The irony is amazing.
 

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
he even took it and people booed him lol

Thank you! Yep people didn’t blindly follow him. He learned very fast that if he said :censored2: that didn’t make sense he would get shut down. Now take Biden’s cult. Biden says a man can be a woman and all the cult seals clap. In the Biden cult you either change or you get out. The leader never changes.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
So Donald told them what to mix for the recipe for the vaccine? Glad I get my news from BC because I would have never known that.
He pressured them to release a vaccine that was not thoroughly tested for a virus that was not nearly as dangerous as they said. Unfortunately, at that point in time in history, he was more worried about having his name on something. Now he doesn’t wanna associate with that at all. And he was all too willing to court the drug companies who were just looking to get their billions of dollars from the government. If people were harmed, killed or even just misled about the actual effectiveness of this medicine, they didn’t care. They would actually lie.

Meanwhile, the other side was screaming, not to take it because of this until they got into office. Then they all wanted to take it and even try to force you.

It’s an amazing lesson that when you mix politics with anything including medicine, all you get is politics.
 

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
He pressured them to release a vaccine that was not thoroughly tested for a virus that was not nearly as dangerous as they said. Unfortunately, at that point in time in history, he was more worried about having his name on something. Now he doesn’t wanna associate with that at all. And he was all too willing to court the drug companies who were just looking to get their billions of dollars from the government. If people were harmed, killed or even just misled about the actual effectiveness of this medicine, they didn’t care. They would actually lie.

Meanwhile, the other side was screaming, not to take it because of this until they got into office. Then they all wanted to take it and even try to force you.

It’s an amazing lesson that when you mix politics with anything including medicine, all you get is politics.

So with all the knowledge and understanding you have. Did you get the vax?
 

oldngray

nowhere special
He pressured them to release a vaccine that was not thoroughly tested for a virus that was not nearly as dangerous as they said. Unfortunately, at that point in time in history, he was more worried about having his name on something. Now he doesn’t wanna associate with that at all. And he was all too willing to court the drug companies who were just looking to get their billions of dollars from the government. If people were harmed killed or even just misled about the actual effectiveness of this medicine, they didn’t care.

Meanwhile, the other side was screaming, not to take it because of this until they got into office. Then they all wanted to take it and even try to force you.

It’s an amazing lesson that when you mix politics with anything including medicine, all you get is politics.
Trump was under pressure to get a vaccine quick and he was still attacked for not getting one quicker. He trusted the supposed experts but never forced anyone to take the vaccine if they didn't want to. Compare that to Biden.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Trump was under pressure to get a vaccine quick and he was still attacked for not getting one quicker. He trusted the supposed experts but never forced anyone to take the vaccine if they didn't want to. Compare that to Biden.
They say you can judge leadership by how they react under pressure.

Just because what Biden did was bad does not make what Trump did good. It’s OK too call out your leadership when they do things they shouldn’t even if you like your leadership.

Covid was an abject failure of government on both sides. Although if you ask some people, they would say the government had great success.

The point is, I think the citizens suffered from the governments decision far more than any virus. And those decisions are affecting us today and for many years to come.
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
They say you can judge leadership by how they react under pressure.

Just because what Biden did was bad does not make what Trump did good. It’s OK too call out your leadership when they do things they shouldn’t even if you like your leadership.

Covid was an abject failure of government on both sides. Although if you ask some people, they would say the government had great success.

The point is, I think the citizens suffered from the governments decision far more than any virus. And those decisions are affecting us today and for many years to come.
Covid death toll was as if Boston and Pittsburgh were wiped out.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Covid death toll was as if Boston and Pittsburgh were wiped out.
Oh no!!

And the flu disappeared, and it was sick and old people who were dying just like with the flu every year.

This isn’t an argument that was real or not there were certainly a virus. Majority of people were going to get the virus, no matter what and the majority of people are going to be just fine. With or without a vaccine that didn’t stop the virus didn’t stop Transmission and had many side effects that we’re only learning about now because the proper testing was not done.

Interestingly, enough, my doctor is no longer pushing this vaccine. As a matter of fact, he says not to take it anymore, although he gives no reason why. 🤔
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
Yet you got it and I didn’t.
See that is why you fall for fake news. Donald doesn’t even make vaccines or “come up” with them. Other people do and he got behind it until thinking people (his own supporters) shut him down. But Biden and the fake news loved it so much they enforced it and wanted to completely mandate it. And all Biden‘s sheep fell right in line and took a vaccine that they thought “Donald came up with.” The irony is amazing.
"My administration provided a total of $14 billion to accelerate vaccine development and to manufacture all of the top candidates in advance — long in advance.

As a result of this unprecedented investment, we are exceedingly proud that both Pfizer and Moderna have announced that their vaccines are approximately 95 percent effective, which is a number that nobody expected to be able to get to, far exceeding anything that really we — that anybody thought. We went out and we said, “What do you think a maximum would be?” And I think doctors — we all came up to the conclusion that something like that would be really incredible."

donald
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
"My administration provided a total of $14 billion to accelerate vaccine development and to manufacture all of the top candidates in advance — long in advance.

As a result of this unprecedented investment, we are exceedingly proud that both Pfizer and Moderna have announced that their vaccines are approximately 95 percent effective, which is a number that nobody expected to be able to get to, far exceeding anything that really we — that anybody thought. We went out and we said, “What do you think a maximum would be?” And I think doctors — we all came up to the conclusion that something like that would be really incredible."

donald
Yep

And I believe both Donald Trump and Joe Biden took the stance they did because they had “good intentions”.

But the road to hell is paved with good intentions
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
So with all the knowledge and understanding you have. Did you get the vax?
My private health is just that private.

I will say I got the virus quite early and it was unpleasant. Although I got paid to stay home for two weeks and watch Netflix.

Whether or not, I had received the vaccine before or after I had Covid, I would neither have had more immunity nor less possibility of transmitting. Rendering it unnecessary in my opinion. And apparently belatedly my doctors opinion as well.

I advocate for not taking unnecessary pharmaceuticals.

Our world is now controlled by pharmaceutical companies. Well, actually, we’re controlled by fear. As Covid clearly showed us.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
My private health is just that private.

I will say I got the virus quite early and it was unpleasant. Although I got paid to stay home for two weeks and watch Netflix.

Whether or not, I had received the vaccine before or after I had Covid, I would neither have had more immunity nor less possibility of transmitting. Rendering it unnecessary in my opinion. And apparently belatedly my doctors opinion as well.

I advocate for not taking unnecessary pharmaceuticals.

Our world is now controlled by pharmaceutical companies. Well, actually, we’re controlled by fear. As Covid clearly showed us.
I never got the shot and never had Covid. Or if I did it was too mild to notice. The constantly changing narrative about the vaccine and what it did and didn't do was a big red flag for me. At best you might not get as sick after you caught the virus but with unknown side effects. It did nothing to give immunity or to stop the spread so the risks of taking it were never worth it for me.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
So with all the knowledge and understanding you have. Did you get the vax?
Certainly, I don’t begrudge anyone for taking it or not taking it I I understood it as a personal choice. I never once was worried about if someone had a vaccine or not, never asked someone, never cared if they wore a mask or not because I understood that that was not going to stop me from getting it.

There are many on this website who not only were worried about what other people did, they also showed how much caring they had by hoping people that did not do it died a terrible death. 😆

The only thing this did was demonstrate to me that they are lemmings. They actually have no real human compassion.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
I never got the shot and never had Covid. Or if I did it was too mild to notice. The constantly changing narrative about the vaccine and what it did and didn't do was a big red flag for me. At best you might not get as sick after you caught the virus but with unknown side effects. It did nothing to give immunity or to stop the spread so the risks of taking it were never worth it for me.
At first, they said you couldn’t get it if you got the shot then as people start getting Covid they said it was just “breakthrough” lol. Then eventually they admit it yeah it doesn’t really stop it at all but you’ll have less symptoms lol OK whatever. There’s really no way to quantify that when people who had the shot were getting pretty sick and going to the hospital and some people that didn’t have the shot had no symptoms at all (like yourself) when they had it. Again, it was a personal choice and always should’ve been and never should’ve been politicized.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
countries signed on to the NPT can enrich to 60% i dont know if its more or less and not violate intl law.

in addition your own intelligence said theyre not building a weapon.
Can you name countries right now enriching to 60% when they only need 3.5% for nuclear power?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
between enrichment and building a nuke.

i think israel was losing. mearsheimer said america has the best weapons but not many either.
America doesn't have many weapons? Name another country that can fly that distance and deliver that size payload and with precision on a target? There aren't any others.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
I never got the shot and never had Covid. Or if I did it was too mild to notice. The constantly changing narrative about the vaccine and what it did and didn't do was a big red flag for me. At best you might not get as sick after you caught the virus but with unknown side effects. It did nothing to give immunity or to stop the spread so the risks of taking it were never worth it for me.
Never got the shot. Didn’t get covid until 3 weeks ago. It was mild and felt like an extended cold. I did lose my ability to taste for a couple weeks. Other than that it was no big deal.
 
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