Lauren Boebert losses it over Twitter ban

[Fred's Myth]

How did Boebert “losses” it?

Asking for a friend.

 

[Trucker Clock]

And deleted numerous conservatives and vaccine skeptics at the behest of the Biden government.

Twitter shut down what Twitter thought was misinformation, not what the Biden Government told them to.

It was a violation of the 1st Amendment getting citizens removed from the "public square" by the government.

You’re confused. This “public square” you speak of only relates to certain elected officials Twitter feeds. Only if a public official uses their account to carry out their role as an elected official. And this is also still up for debate.

You are not the public square replying to a vaccine opponent. You have no First Amendment rights on Twitter.

The government wanted them shut down, and used Twitter's right to do so.

The Government wanted what they thought was misinformation stopped. And it’s still up for debate what was actually misinformation.

And I have news for you. The First Amendment does not protect you from libel, slander or knowingly publishing false information or publishing information “with reckless disregard for the truth.”

So it is not a violation of the First Amendment for the Government to restrict your publishing false information or publishing information “with reckless disregard for the truth.”

The only issue here is what is actually the truth?

So, it is not a First Amendment issue. It is a truth or misinformation issue.

If you can't see the conflict of interest there, the violation of rights, then you're too partisan.

Nope. The Government has every right to shut down the publishing of false information or the publishing of information “with reckless disregard for the truth.” This is not protected by the First Amendment.

But, the Government didn’t shut them down. Twitter did. Now the Government doesn’t even have to worry whether it was technically misinformation or not. Because Twitter deemed it misinformation and shut them down.

No, Twitter should not have done it. But what they did was not illegal. Case closed.

 

[vantexan]

Twitter shut down what Twitter thought was misinformation, not what the Biden Government told them to.



You’re confused. This “public square” you speak of only relates to certain elected officials Twitter feeds. Only if a public official uses their account to carry out their role as an elected official. And this is also still up for debate.

You are not the public square replying to a vaccine opponent. You have no First Amendment rights on Twitter.



The Government wanted what they thought was misinformation stopped. And it’s still up for debate what was actually misinformation.

And I have news for you. The First Amendment does not protect you from libel, slander or knowingly publishing false information or publishing information “with reckless disregard for the truth.”

So it is not a violation of the First Amendment for the Government to restrict your publishing false information or publishing information “with reckless disregard for the truth.”

The only issue here is what is actually the truth?

So, it is not a First Amendment issue. It is a truth or misinformation issue.



Nope. The Government has every right to shut down the publishing of false information or the publishing of information “with reckless disregard for the truth.” This is not protected by the First Amendment.

But, the Government didn’t shut them down. Twitter did. Now the Government doesn’t even have to worry whether it was technically misinformation or not. Because Twitter deemed it misinformation and shut them down.

No, Twitter should not have done it. But what they did was not illegal. Case closed.

If the government has every right to shut down misinformation then why did they ask Twitter to do it in private? And for example the Hunter Biden laptop story wasn't misinformation but the government told Twitter it was. It has since been acknowledged as his laptop by major liberal outlets. The government had the laptop since 2019 and knew it was legitimate. But they lied to Twitter, Facebook, and others. This is what you're defending.

It's generally agreed by most today that Twitter, Facebook, etc are "the public square." Doesn't mean that Twitter, etc don't have rights and responsibilities over their domain but it does mean the government can't legally pick winners and losers. Participants have rights too. So the government circumvents that by going behind the curtain. And you're defending that.

 

[vantexan]

Twitter shut down what Twitter thought was misinformation, not what the Biden Government told them to.



You’re confused. This “public square” you speak of only relates to certain elected officials Twitter feeds. Only if a public official uses their account to carry out their role as an elected official. And this is also still up for debate.

You are not the public square replying to a vaccine opponent. You have no First Amendment rights on Twitter.



The Government wanted what they thought was misinformation stopped. And it’s still up for debate what was actually misinformation.

And I have news for you. The First Amendment does not protect you from libel, slander or knowingly publishing false information or publishing information “with reckless disregard for the truth.”

So it is not a violation of the First Amendment for the Government to restrict your publishing false information or publishing information “with reckless disregard for the truth.”

The only issue here is what is actually the truth?

So, it is not a First Amendment issue. It is a truth or misinformation issue.



Nope. The Government has every right to shut down the publishing of false information or the publishing of information “with reckless disregard for the truth.” This is not protected by the First Amendment.

But, the Government didn’t shut them down. Twitter did. Now the Government doesn’t even have to worry whether it was technically misinformation or not. Because Twitter deemed it misinformation and shut them down.

No, Twitter should not have done it. But what they did was not illegal. Case closed.

You say the government has the right to stop what they think is misinformation? What if the government is wrong? For example vaccines. People were kicked off Twitter for questioning the safety and efficacy of the vaccines. Turns out there have been tens of thousands of adverse effects listed on the government VAERS website. And it is well documented that the vaccines do not stop infection and transmission, which the government repeatedly said they did. This is what you aren't getting. There should be robust debate from all sides. Not one side trying to control the narrative and shut down dissenters. That's authoritarian.

Did the executives at Twitter have a lock on what is true? Or were they acting on behalf of the party they supported to control public perception of what was deemed true and acceptable by them?

 

[Trucker Clock]

If the government has every right to shut down misinformation then why did they ask Twitter.to do it in private?

Because who determines what is misinformation? If Twitter shuts you down, they don’t have to prove it was misinformation. They can shut you down for any reason.

But they lied to Twitter, Facebook, and others. This is what you're defending.

You’re upset because the Government lied? I’m not defending it, but it is a fact of life. Get used to it.

And you're defending that.

I’m not defending that. I’m just telling you what the law says. They, Twitter and the Government, did nothing illegal. They did not violate anyone’s First Amendment’s rights.

 

[Trucker Clock]

You say the government has the right to stop what they think is misinformation?

Now we’re getting somewhere. You’re starting to understand.

In this case, the Government did not have to prove it was misinformation. Twitter shut them down.

 

[Trucker Clock]

Did the executives at Twitter have a lock on what is true?

Nope.

Or were they acting on behalf of the party they supported

Yep. Not illegal.

 

[vantexan]

Because who determines what is misinformation? If Twitter shuts you down, they don’t have to prove it was misinformation. They can shut you down for any reason.



You’re upset because the Government lied? I’m not defending it, but it is a fact of life. Get used to it.



I’m not defending that. I’m just telling you what the law says. They, Twitter and the Government, did nothing illegal. They did not violate anyone’s First Amendment’s rights.

The government did and Twitter colluded with them. Let's see how the lawsuits progress.

 

[vantexan]

Now we’re getting somewhere. You’re starting to understand.

In this case, the Government did not have to prove it was misinformation. Twitter shut them down.

The government asked Twitter to shut them down. And Twitter is choosing to shut down dissent. Not the America I want. And we'd never know about this if it weren't for Elon Musk. Now the once favorite of the climate change crowd has a bullseye on him. Nice crowd you're defending.

 

[Trucker Clock]

The government did and Twitter colluded with them. Let's see how the lawsuits progress.

Twitter did not collude with anybody. Twitter just agreed with the Government on what they thought was misinformation.

 

[Trucker Clock]

Nice crowd you're defending.

I already told you. I am not defending anybody. I’m just telling you that the First Amendment does not apply to Twitter.

 

[Next Day Error]

You say the government has the right to stop what they think is misinformation? What if the government is wrong? For example vaccines. People were kicked off Twitter for questioning the safety and efficacy of the vaccines. Turns out there have been tens of thousands of adverse effects listed on the government VAERS website. And it is well documented that the vaccines do not stop infection and transmission, which the government repeatedly said they did. This is what you aren't getting. There should be robust debate from all sides. Not one side trying to control the narrative and shut down dissenters. That's authoritarian.

Did the executives at Twitter have a lock on what is true? Or were they acting on behalf of the party they supported to control public perception of what was deemed true and acceptable by them?

Please read at least ONE article about VAERS that isn’t a grifter’s blog or part of a Russian misinfo campaign and get back to us.

 

[newolddude]

Again: what do you guys want?

Jail for certain Twitter personnel?
Fines?
Arrest members of the FBI?
Disband the FBI?

 

[Next Day Error]

Again: what do you guys want?

No government intervention but all the government intervention. Depends on my mood. As long as white men remain on the top of the sociological strata. No tolerance for the vulnerable or people who live in fear in the shadows. WE. WANT. CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

 

[newolddude]

No government intervention but all the government intervention. Depends on my mood. As long as white men remain on the top of the sociological strata. No tolerance for the vulnerable or people who live in fear in the shadows. WE. WANT. CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

Sounds about white.

 

[vantexan]

Twitter did not collude with anybody. Twitter just agreed with the Government on what they thought was misinformation.

When it's one side working with the government against critics behind the scenes to silence dissent that's collusion.

 

[Thebrownblob]

No government intervention but all the government intervention. Depends on my mood. As long as white men remain on the top of the sociological strata. No tolerance for the vulnerable or people who live in

Sounds about white.

Talk about conspiracy theorist L O L. Is there some secret white guy convention we should know about?

 

[vantexan]

No government intervention but all the government intervention. Depends on my mood. As long as white men remain on the top of the sociological strata. No tolerance for the vulnerable or people who live in fear in the shadows. WE. WANT. CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

A fantastical world you live in.

 

[vantexan]

Again: what do you guys want?

Jail for certain Twitter personnel?
Fines?
Arrest members of the FBI?
Disband the FBI?

An acknowledgement of wrongdoing and a platform free to all sides to participate expressing their beliefs and opinions without being shutdown for going against what is believed by one particular side. If anything was done illegally then those responsible should be held accountable.

 

[vantexan]

Please read at least ONE article about VAERS that isn’t a grifter’s blog or part of a Russian misinfo campaign and get back to us.

Can you point to the grift going on or to proof it was put forth by Russians or is that just the standard dismissal? VAERS is a CDC run website designed to gather information from medical professionals. If it's revealing info that appears negative to those who advocate for the vaccines then rather than dismiss it or downplay it shouldn't they take it seriously and look into the adverse reactions reported? Otherwise what's the point of having a website that alerts the CDC to problems with a vaccine?