Lauren Boebert losses it over Twitter ban

vantexan

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Dude, you REALLY think the government is involved in Twitter’s enforcing their own TOS?
Twitter executives claimed under oath before Congress that they weren't "shadow banning" conservatives. They lied. Elon Musk released internal memos proving they lied extensively. It wasn't "enforcing their own TOS." It was working closely with the government to protect liberals personally and prevent any criticism of government actions by the Biden administration. And we saw the reaction to Musk from the Left. He was going to allow all sides to participate. That outraged them.
 

Trucker Clock

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When it's one side working with the government against critics behind the scenes to silence dissent that's collusion.

Wait a minute. I thought you didn't want the Government involved. You don't want the Government telling a private business what content to delete.

Now, you want the Government to tell a private business that they can't delete posts. Sorry, the Government has no authority to tell a private business what they can or can't delete.
 

Trucker Clock

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An acknowledgement of wrongdoing and a platform free to all sides to participate expressing their beliefs and opinions without being shutdown for going against what is believed by one particular side.

A private business can run itself how it wants. Twitter does not have to be free to all sides. Not if Twitter management does not want it that way. Twitter has every right as a private business to be one sided. Hell, they already are. So is Facebook.

Oh, that's right, you want the Government to step in and force Twitter, a private business, to be free to all sides.

If you want Twitter to not delete any posts, to not ban anyone, do something about it. Boycott Twitter. Write letters to Twitter. Maybe if Twitter lost users do to their policies, they may change.

But, do not expect the Government to force a private business to do this. The Government needs to stay out of it completely. Let the free market decide how Twitter operates.

You want a platform free to all sides? Create one.
 

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Can you point to the grift going on or to proof it was put forth by Russians or is that just the standard dismissal? VAERS is a CDC run website designed to gather information from medical professionals. If it's revealing info that appears negative to those who advocate for the vaccines then rather than dismiss it or downplay it shouldn't they take it seriously and look into the adverse reactions reported? Otherwise what's the point of having a website that alerts the CDC to problems with a vaccine?
I know what VAERS is. You apparently do not.
 

Trucker Clock

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And we saw the reaction to Musk from the Left. He was going to allow all sides to participate.

Exactly how it is supposed to be done. The new owner of Twitter, a private business, is going to allow all sides to participate. This is an owner decision, not a forced decision by the Government. The previous owner of Twitter had every right to run it the way he wanted to.
 

Fred's Myth

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A private business can run itself how it wants. Twitter does not have to be free to all sides. Not if Twitter management does not want it that way. Twitter has every right as a private business to be one sided. Hell, they already are. So is Facebook.

Oh, that's right, you want the Government to step in and force Twitter, a private business, to be free to all sides.

If you want Twitter to not delete any posts, to not ban anyone, do something about it. Boycott Twitter. Write letters to Twitter. Maybe if Twitter lost users do to their policies, they may change.

But, do not expect the Government to force a private business to do this. The Government needs to stay out of it completely. Let the free market decide how Twitter operates.

You want a platform free to all sides? Create one.
Are you not aware of how many regulatory agencies your government has created?
Do you believe your government has your best interests at heart?

Or is your government more interested in controlling you, and remaining in control….
 

Trucker Clock

Well-Known Member
Are you not aware of how many regulatory agencies your government has created?

Yes.

Do you believe your government has your best interests at heart?

No.

Or is your government more interested in controlling you, and remaining in control….

Sure.

But, at least for the time being, and hopefully for many, many years into the future, the Government cannot tell a private social media company what, or whom, they can or cannot delete from their site.
 

vantexan

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Wait a minute. I thought you didn't want the Government involved. You don't want the Government telling a private business what content to delete.

Now, you want the Government to tell a private business that they can't delete posts. Sorry, the Government has no authority to tell a private business what they can or can't delete.
I want the government to stay out of it altogether. Not take sides. Sure, a private business can choose what to delete or allow. But as a platform given special exemptions from the government they need to treat everyone fairly or lose that exemption. And be held accountable by Congress for lying to them.
 

vantexan

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Exactly how it is supposed to be done. The new owner of Twitter, a private business, is going to allow all sides to participate. This is an owner decision, not a forced decision by the Government. The previous owner of Twitter had every right to run it the way he wanted to.
And Congress has the right to strip them from the exemption other media outlets don't enjoy if they no longer operate as an unbiased platform. Newspapers are free to write opinions, but when they print claims that harm others they can be sued. I forget the exact word/number designation of the exemption but Twitter and others argued that they are platforms that enable others to post, but shouldn't be held accountable for what others post. So they were granted an exemption from being sued as long as they remained an unbiased platform open to everyone. But they operated behind the scenes to shut down conservative voices before the election and since and were doing it in concert with elements of our government and lied about it to Congress. They weren't innocent bystanders just trying to run a business. And squealed like stuck pigs when Musk reopened the platform to most who've been run off.

You don't want the government telling a private business how to operate but the reason we have a government is to enact laws that protect us not only from criminals but protects consumers from poor business practices that can harm us in various ways. Businesses aren't free to just do anything they like. Do you think UPS can choose how to ship and deliver freight without any government regulations intended to protect public safety? Or the safety of its employees?
 
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Trucker Clock

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What's it contingent on?

Nothing.

The law was created almost 30 years ago to protect internet platforms from liability for many of the things third parties say or do on them.

"Wyden likens the dual nature of Section 230 to a sword and a shield for platforms: They’re shielded from liability for user content, and they have a sword to moderate it as they see fit."

 

vantexan

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Nothing.

The law was created almost 30 years ago to protect internet platforms from liability for many of the things third parties say or do on them.

"Wyden likens the dual nature of Section 230 to a sword and a shield for platforms: They’re shielded from liability for user content, and they have a sword to moderate it as they see fit."

They were given an exemption, so the giver can take it away too. Obviously not going to be done by the Democrats. Twitter is essentially an arm of the DNC.
 

Trucker Clock

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They were given an exemption, so the giver can take it away too. Obviously not going to be done by the Democrats. Twitter is essentially an arm of the DNC.

The Government cannot take it away from just one social media company and pick and choose who is exempt. It is a broad exemption to any social media company that is not a publisher. They would have to eliminate it for all.

All or none.

Try all you want. You can spin it any way you want. You will never get what you want.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
And the Republicans would say that censorship is OK as long as it was Liberals being censored.

While both parties are different, they are both the same. What's best for the party.
Republicans just want a fair playing field for everyone. Which the Democrats seem to be afraid of.
 
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