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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5538647" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>For thousands of years all over the world once young women reached puberty they were eligible for marriage.&nbsp; And the state laws still on the books in the majority of states reflect that to varying degrees.&nbsp; Once women started working more a number of things happened.&nbsp; Now please remember I&#039;m not describing some male fantasy that I&#039;m indulging in.&nbsp; Just telling you what happened.&nbsp; Women started working more.&nbsp; More and more families became dependent on two incomes.&nbsp; Women&#039;s rights expanded.&nbsp; Roe vs Wade happened.&nbsp; Divorce became much more common and destigmatized.&nbsp; Along the way instead of girls dropping out of school to get married, which was common even 60 years ago, they were encouraged to stay in school and get their education.&nbsp; Getting married at 15-16 was discouraged.&nbsp; I know you&#039;ll say 13 but that&#039;s what&#039;s on the books in some states, but generally when a girl dropped out of school to marry they were at least 15 and with the legal blessing of at least one parent and/or a judge depending on the state.&nbsp; Younger than that was more likely due to pregnancy.&nbsp; This is important so please hear me.&nbsp; I&#039;m telling you like it was, not saying that&#039;s the way it should be or not be.&nbsp; Anyways in the last 50 years or so society has developed into women can choose to not marry, have sex with whomever they choose, easily divorce, build a career.&nbsp; Essentially everything a man can do.&nbsp; And birthrates have fallen dramatically in the Western world.&nbsp; It matters because not only are people unable in many cases to support multiple children but aren&#039;t having children at all.&nbsp; And countries will dissolve over demographic collapse.&nbsp; You want to smear me with my views but I&#039;m just pointing out what always was but is no longer the case.&nbsp; Just from what I&#039;ve read many women are unhappy with the current situation, want children, but the proverbial genie is out of the bottle and is highly unlikely we&#039;ll ever go back.&nbsp; But recently it&#039;s become an issue that one&#039;s sex is a choice, that having sex with whomever you choose is a choice, and attempts are being made to instill that in children.&nbsp; The world some envision is a very different one than many want.&nbsp; Remains to be seen whether it will become mainstream like all the cultural changes we&#039;ve experienced in the last 50 or so years.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5538647, member: 24302"] For thousands of years all over the world once young women reached puberty they were eligible for marriage. And the state laws still on the books in the majority of states reflect that to varying degrees. Once women started working more a number of things happened. Now please remember I'm not describing some male fantasy that I'm indulging in. Just telling you what happened. Women started working more. More and more families became dependent on two incomes. Women's rights expanded. Roe vs Wade happened. Divorce became much more common and destigmatized. Along the way instead of girls dropping out of school to get married, which was common even 60 years ago, they were encouraged to stay in school and get their education. Getting married at 15-16 was discouraged. I know you'll say 13 but that's what's on the books in some states, but generally when a girl dropped out of school to marry they were at least 15 and with the legal blessing of at least one parent and/or a judge depending on the state. Younger than that was more likely due to pregnancy. This is important so please hear me. I'm telling you like it was, not saying that's the way it should be or not be. Anyways in the last 50 years or so society has developed into women can choose to not marry, have sex with whomever they choose, easily divorce, build a career. Essentially everything a man can do. And birthrates have fallen dramatically in the Western world. It matters because not only are people unable in many cases to support multiple children but aren't having children at all. And countries will dissolve over demographic collapse. You want to smear me with my views but I'm just pointing out what always was but is no longer the case. Just from what I've read many women are unhappy with the current situation, want children, but the proverbial genie is out of the bottle and is highly unlikely we'll ever go back. But recently it's become an issue that one's sex is a choice, that having sex with whomever you choose is a choice, and attempts are being made to instill that in children. The world some envision is a very different one than many want. Remains to be seen whether it will become mainstream like all the cultural changes we've experienced in the last 50 or so years. [/QUOTE]

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