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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5935810" data-attributes="member: 24302">It&#039;s like talking to a wall.&nbsp; Your hatred of Christianity won&#039;t allow you to realize the obvious.&nbsp; Not every priest was a homosexual.&nbsp; But the Church was an avenue homosexual men could take and be an accepted part of society.&nbsp; There wasn&#039;t an upfront acknowledgement that the priest was gay.&nbsp; He was a respected clergyman who took vows of celibacy to better serve God(not that the Bible requires that).&nbsp; In many communities if a person didn&#039;t worship God he could be accused of witchcraft, etc.&nbsp; People went to Mass.&nbsp; You didn&#039;t have a thousand options for entertainment.&nbsp; These were agrarian societies where you worked hard physically and you prayed intensely.&nbsp; There were no books circulating that extolled the virtues of &quot;alternatives.&quot;&nbsp; About the only people who got away with these things were members of the nobility and they took great risks doing so.&nbsp; As for your assertion that a gay man would rather be married than be a part of an institution that persecuted gays I can think of two modern examples that disprove your theory: J. Edgar Hoover and Roy Kohn.&nbsp; Be thankful you live in an era that gives you choices.&nbsp; I don&#039;t agree with your choices, but as a Christian my obligation isn&#039;t to harm you.&nbsp; It&#039;s to inform you that your soul is your most important possession and you can lose your soul by participating in such choices.&nbsp; The difference between today and hundreds of years ago is they&#039;d kill you over it.&nbsp; They weren&#039;t right to do so, but they would.&nbsp; When you live in a culture where war was standing close enough to your enemy to eviscerate him, or if you wanted meat you had to kill a pig, then being brutally violent to those considered a dangerous aberration isn&#039;t much of a stretch.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5935810, member: 24302"] It's like talking to a wall. Your hatred of Christianity won't allow you to realize the obvious. Not every priest was a homosexual. But the Church was an avenue homosexual men could take and be an accepted part of society. There wasn't an upfront acknowledgement that the priest was gay. He was a respected clergyman who took vows of celibacy to better serve God(not that the Bible requires that). In many communities if a person didn't worship God he could be accused of witchcraft, etc. People went to Mass. You didn't have a thousand options for entertainment. These were agrarian societies where you worked hard physically and you prayed intensely. There were no books circulating that extolled the virtues of "alternatives." About the only people who got away with these things were members of the nobility and they took great risks doing so. As for your assertion that a gay man would rather be married than be a part of an institution that persecuted gays I can think of two modern examples that disprove your theory: J. Edgar Hoover and Roy Kohn. Be thankful you live in an era that gives you choices. I don't agree with your choices, but as a Christian my obligation isn't to harm you. It's to inform you that your soul is your most important possession and you can lose your soul by participating in such choices. The difference between today and hundreds of years ago is they'd kill you over it. They weren't right to do so, but they would. When you live in a culture where war was standing close enough to your enemy to eviscerate him, or if you wanted meat you had to kill a pig, then being brutally violent to those considered a dangerous aberration isn't much of a stretch. [/QUOTE]

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