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<blockquote data-quote="Box Ox" data-source="post: 6147527" data-attributes="member: 48469"><p><span style="font-size: 26px"><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👏🏻" title="Clapping hands: light skin tone :clap_tone1:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f44f-1f3fb.png" data-shortname=":clap_tone1:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👏🏻" title="Clapping hands: light skin tone :clap_tone1:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f44f-1f3fb.png" data-shortname=":clap_tone1:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👏🏻" title="Clapping hands: light skin tone :clap_tone1:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f44f-1f3fb.png" data-shortname=":clap_tone1:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👏🏻" title="Clapping hands: light skin tone :clap_tone1:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f44f-1f3fb.png" data-shortname=":clap_tone1:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👏🏻" title="Clapping hands: light skin tone :clap_tone1:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f44f-1f3fb.png" data-shortname=":clap_tone1:" /><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👏🏻" title="Clapping hands: light skin tone :clap_tone1:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f44f-1f3fb.png" data-shortname=":clap_tone1:" /></span></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/opinion/gay-lesbian-trans-rights.html[/URL]</p><h3><span style="font-size: 18px">How the Gay Rights Movement Radicalized, and Lost Its Way</span></h3><p>"..abolishing the sex binary for the entire society? That’s a whole other thing entirely. And madness, I believe. What if I redefined what it is to be heterosexual and imposed it on straight people? Or changed what it means to be a man or a woman, for that matter? Then it ceases to be accommodation of a minority and becomes a societywide revolution — an overreach that would soon lead to a potent and sane backlash, against not just trans people, but gay men and lesbians as well.</p><p></p><p>The gay rights movement, especially in the marriage years, had long asked for simple liberal equality and mutual respect — live and let live. Reform, not revolution. No one’s straight marriage would change if gay marriage arrived, we pledged. You can bring up your children however you like. We will leave you alone. We will leave your children alone.</p><p></p><p>But in the wake of victory, L.G.B.T.Q.+ groups reneged on that pledge. They demanded the entire society change in a fundamental way so that the sex binary no longer counted. Elementary school children were taught that being a boy or a girl might not have anything to do with their bodies, and that their parents had merely guessed whether they were a boy or a girl when they were born. In fact, sex was no longer to be recognized at birth — it was now merely assigned, penciled in. We got new terms like “chest-feeding” for “breastfeeding” and “birthing parent” for “mother."</p><p></p><p>A key leader of this movement, Chase Strangio, informed us that “a penis is not a male body part. It’s just an unusual body part for a woman.” We all were suddenly expected to announce our pronouns as if everyone didn’t already know. Then neopronouns — xe/xem! — were added. The movement came up with a mantra: “TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN. TRANS MEN ARE MEN.” It was not an argument, nor a proposition to be explored or debated. It was a theological command. In all caps."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Box Ox, post: 6147527, member: 48469"] [SIZE=7]👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻[/SIZE] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/opinion/gay-lesbian-trans-rights.html[/URL] [HEADING=2][SIZE=5]How the Gay Rights Movement Radicalized, and Lost Its Way[/SIZE][/HEADING] "..abolishing the sex binary for the entire society? That’s a whole other thing entirely. And madness, I believe. What if I redefined what it is to be heterosexual and imposed it on straight people? Or changed what it means to be a man or a woman, for that matter? Then it ceases to be accommodation of a minority and becomes a societywide revolution — an overreach that would soon lead to a potent and sane backlash, against not just trans people, but gay men and lesbians as well. The gay rights movement, especially in the marriage years, had long asked for simple liberal equality and mutual respect — live and let live. Reform, not revolution. No one’s straight marriage would change if gay marriage arrived, we pledged. You can bring up your children however you like. We will leave you alone. We will leave your children alone. But in the wake of victory, L.G.B.T.Q.+ groups reneged on that pledge. They demanded the entire society change in a fundamental way so that the sex binary no longer counted. Elementary school children were taught that being a boy or a girl might not have anything to do with their bodies, and that their parents had merely guessed whether they were a boy or a girl when they were born. In fact, sex was no longer to be recognized at birth — it was now merely assigned, penciled in. We got new terms like “chest-feeding” for “breastfeeding” and “birthing parent” for “mother." A key leader of this movement, Chase Strangio, informed us that “a penis is not a male body part. It’s just an unusual body part for a woman.” We all were suddenly expected to announce our pronouns as if everyone didn’t already know. Then neopronouns — xe/xem! — were added. The movement came up with a mantra: “TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN. TRANS MEN ARE MEN.” It was not an argument, nor a proposition to be explored or debated. It was a theological command. In all caps." [/QUOTE]
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