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<blockquote data-quote="Whither" data-source="post: 5102995" data-attributes="member: 76643">You have to think little of human beings, including yourself, if you think that &quot;work is still going to be required.&quot; It&#039;s not a matter of pretty words. In conditions which promote freedom, e.g., the freedom to &quot;walk away,&quot; which is the same as being able to disobey without being automatically doomed, and being able to create new, different relationships, people can figure out things themselves. Once people are mere dependents, they imagine the &quot;real problem&quot; is &quot;freeloaders&quot;. Ironically, that describes the majority of wealthy people. They live off of our efforts. They just enjoy legal control over those efforts, while the rest of us are allegedly &quot;free,&quot; e.g., if you don&#039;t like this company you can work for another. Same difference.Stop insisting that we apologize for this ****ty way of life unless we have some grand plan to replace it.&nbsp; That&#039;s not how it works. Only think of this: every time you worry you forgot to lock a door to your house, you&#039;re already admitting you live in chaos ... &quot;they&quot; could be coming for you at any time. It&#039;s probably not true, but I don&#039;t know if you noticed, since Covid, I see all the more evidence of people &quot;dropping out&quot; and becoming homeless. We&#039;re already at war with ourselves ...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Whither, post: 5102995, member: 76643"] You have to think little of human beings, including yourself, if you think that "work is still going to be required." It's not a matter of pretty words. In conditions which promote freedom, e.g., the freedom to "walk away," which is the same as being able to disobey without being automatically doomed, and being able to create new, different relationships, people can figure out things themselves. Once people are mere dependents, they imagine the "real problem" is "freeloaders". Ironically, that describes the majority of wealthy people. They live off of our efforts. They just enjoy legal control over those efforts, while the rest of us are allegedly "free," e.g., if you don't like this company you can work for another. Same difference. Stop insisting that we apologize for this ****ty way of life [I]unless[/I] we have some grand plan to replace it. That's not how it works. Only think of this: every time you worry you forgot to lock a door to your house, you're already admitting you live in chaos ... "they" could be coming for you at any time. It's probably not true, but I don't know if you noticed, since Covid, I see all the more evidence of people "dropping out" and becoming homeless. We're already at war with ourselves ... [/QUOTE]

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