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<blockquote data-quote="CharleyHustle" data-source="post: 1287729" data-attributes="member: 26998">I&#039;m not trying to take sides, but this whole episode seems to be people expecting a whole lot more than the union, any union can provide. Do you seriously believe that this is the only building that UPS plays &quot;LETS FIRE SOME DRIVERS TODAY&quot;.What I cant&#039;t see is how did it get to this point in this building? These employees should know, and certainly their officials should know, is that change is a long drawn out process, and the deck is stacked against the employee no matter how well the contract is written. The number one lesson of unionism is grieve now, take action later. I remember long ago when we got the right to 8hr requests. If you got over dispatched, too bad, deliver till you are done. If you brought stops back you got trouble. It took years of grievances and documentation, and waiting, until we finally won through the grievance procedure the right to bring stops back if we are over dispatched on 8hr requests. The only thing I&#039;ve heard so far is that they want you to use the hand rail every time and put your 4ways on in a cul-de-sac, do you really think that this is different everywhere else? Is this building the only one UPS wants the employees to work as directed? If it is so horrible in this building, why are the drivers back to work at all? Why are they still not out and walking a picket line?Once again, I don&#039;t want to take sides, I want to support these drivers, but you are going to have to come up with something better than the company is making them do stuff that everyone else already is contractually obligated to do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CharleyHustle, post: 1287729, member: 26998"] I'm not trying to take sides, but this whole episode seems to be people expecting a whole lot more than the union, any union can provide. Do you seriously believe that this is the only building that UPS plays "LETS FIRE SOME DRIVERS TODAY". What I cant't see is how did it get to this point in this building? These employees should know, and certainly their officials should know, is that change is a long drawn out process, and the deck is stacked against the employee no matter how well the contract is written. The number one lesson of unionism is grieve now, take action later. I remember long ago when we got the right to 8hr requests. If you got over dispatched, too bad, deliver till you are done. If you brought stops back you got trouble. It took years of grievances and documentation, and waiting, until we finally won through the grievance procedure the right to bring stops back if we are over dispatched on 8hr requests. The only thing I've heard so far is that they want you to use the hand rail every time and put your 4ways on in a cul-de-sac, do you really think that this is different everywhere else? Is this building the only one UPS wants the employees to work as directed? If it is so horrible in this building, why are the drivers back to work at all? Why are they still not out and walking a picket line? Once again, I don't want to take sides, I want to support these drivers, but you are going to have to come up with something better than the company is making them do stuff that everyone else already is contractually obligated to do. [/QUOTE]

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