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<blockquote data-quote="Island" data-source="post: 1288258" data-attributes="member: 42417">I know that you&#039;ll never stop trying to blame the TDU for all the world&#039;s problems, and while I am not TDU I offer this: Expecting Hoffa/Hall to do anything but bankroll all of our union dues without using any of it for anything worthwhile - well, they haven&#039;t done a damn thing for me. No new FT jobs being created which is explicitly the whole purpose of the contract, all the &quot;major pay increase for all employees&quot; speeches from Hall were vapor, &quot;the healthcare plan is the same as the one UPS used to give you&quot; was another joke, and then there&#039;s &quot;just vote yes immediately or we&#039;ll punish you.&quot;Now I dunno what kind of school of negotiation teaches to settle immediately but any idiot knows the union has the huge advantage in any negotiations. We have them by the balls, the company damn well can&#039;t fire every teamster in the nation if they don&#039;t want to give us pay raises and starting payrates that match inflation. Yet our leadership is in cahoots with these people - I wouldn&#039;t doubt it if Scott Davis and Hoffa Jr putt together at the same rich executives only golf course.Anyway I&#039;m unwatching this thread, I am interested in the facts and not the constant fingerpointing. I want the facts before I decide who I point my finger at.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Island, post: 1288258, member: 42417"] I know that you'll never stop trying to blame the TDU for all the world's problems, and while I am not TDU I offer this: Expecting Hoffa/Hall to do anything but bankroll all of our union dues without using any of it for anything worthwhile - well, they haven't done a damn thing for me. No new FT jobs being created which is explicitly the whole purpose of the contract, all the "major pay increase for all employees" speeches from Hall were vapor, "the healthcare plan is the same as the one UPS used to give you" was another joke, and then there's "just vote yes immediately or we'll punish you." Now I dunno what kind of school of negotiation teaches to settle immediately but any idiot knows the union has the huge advantage in any negotiations. We have them by the balls, the company damn well can't fire every teamster in the nation if they don't want to give us pay raises and starting payrates that match inflation. Yet our leadership is in cahoots with these people - I wouldn't doubt it if Scott Davis and Hoffa Jr putt together at the same rich executives only golf course. Anyway I'm unwatching this thread, I am interested in the facts and not the constant fingerpointing. I want the facts before I decide who I point my finger at. [/QUOTE]

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