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<blockquote data-quote="Brown Spider" data-source="post: 1310922" data-attributes="member: 52461"><p>I guess since I supported, and still do support, the Executive Board, and I've also quoted Article 18, Section 4 on numerous occasions, that would make me one of the "e-board loving people". Okay. I still believe that the language in Article 18, Section 4 is strong and would have been upheld by an Arbitrator or by the NLRB. The actions by UPS in Maspeth were exactly what that language was meant to address. That being said, Tim, or my "beloved president", as you call him, didn't have the luxury of judging from the sidelines. He had the burden of weighing the eventual long term impact on those 250 drivers. He may have believed, as I do, that they would have been reinstated. He may have also considered the time it may have taken and how those drivers would survive without a paycheck coming in. He may have gotten direct feedback from those drivers. He may have concluded that a guaranteed return to work with a 10 day suspension was better than risking even a chance that the eventual decision would go against those drivers. That's what comes with the territory of elected leadership. </p><p></p><p>I still maintain that the Article 18, Section 4 language would have prevailed, but that's not my call. I also think that Liam made a justified decision and a gutsy call. I'd choose him to represent me anytime. I also still support the Local 804 Executive Board because I'm not a one issue voter. I look at the representation they've provided, the contract they've negotiated, the pension improvement they've made, and their early decision to fix the health plan problems rather than hide them as was done in the past. They've done a lot of good work and I continue to support them. Tim may never earn the title of my "beloved president", but he's more than earned the title of President.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brown Spider, post: 1310922, member: 52461"] I guess since I supported, and still do support, the Executive Board, and I've also quoted Article 18, Section 4 on numerous occasions, that would make me one of the "e-board loving people". Okay. I still believe that the language in Article 18, Section 4 is strong and would have been upheld by an Arbitrator or by the NLRB. The actions by UPS in Maspeth were exactly what that language was meant to address. That being said, Tim, or my "beloved president", as you call him, didn't have the luxury of judging from the sidelines. He had the burden of weighing the eventual long term impact on those 250 drivers. He may have believed, as I do, that they would have been reinstated. He may have also considered the time it may have taken and how those drivers would survive without a paycheck coming in. He may have gotten direct feedback from those drivers. He may have concluded that a guaranteed return to work with a 10 day suspension was better than risking even a chance that the eventual decision would go against those drivers. That's what comes with the territory of elected leadership. I still maintain that the Article 18, Section 4 language would have prevailed, but that's not my call. I also think that Liam made a justified decision and a gutsy call. I'd choose him to represent me anytime. I also still support the Local 804 Executive Board because I'm not a one issue voter. I look at the representation they've provided, the contract they've negotiated, the pension improvement they've made, and their early decision to fix the health plan problems rather than hide them as was done in the past. They've done a lot of good work and I continue to support them. Tim may never earn the title of my "beloved president", but he's more than earned the title of President. [/QUOTE]
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