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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JL 0513" data-source="post: 2482352" data-attributes="member: 50088">I was worried about it under Bush who spent like a Democrat. I'm surprised Dems didn't like him. Then Obama called Bush "unpatriotic" for racking up the debt he did. Wonder what that makes Obama.I'm also not naive to think the debt won't increase substantially under Trump. I'm very much against some of his spending proposals. But really it's the autopilot programs that's the main drivers. SS and Medicare. For this reason US debt would increase even if we elected the most fiscally conservative person to ever enter government. It's really hopeless because no politician or Congress will or could do what is necessary. $30T? $40T? What will be the breaking point?</blockquote>