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<blockquote data-quote="dmac1" data-source="post: 4679150" data-attributes="member: 60252">And if people take those jobs, which generally don&#039;t offer health insurance, their children won&#039;t have insurance, and without insurance- even Medicaid- they will literally be refused service except if needed for immediate survival. If they take a job that barely pays the bills, but leaves little for food, their children will suffer when the earnings are &#039;too high&#039; to stay on SNAP. Unless one has children, public benefits are VERY limited, and you want to punish children for the sins of the parents- if you call being unable to find work, or even afford to be able to pay bus fare to travel to look for a job a &#039;sin.&#039; And as long as employers are allowed to pay wages that don&#039;t allow life to succeed, we will need to provide for the children. The vast majority of people who get any aid ARE already working. Making employers pay them enough would save TAXPAYERS from needing to help keep these workers alive. And for some reason, you believe that working at a low paying job long enough guarantees that you will move up the payscale. That is ignorant. Maybe 1 out of 10 people is a supervisor, and raises of 4 cents an hour every year is NOT moving up.And if someone starts working right out of high scholl because they got a poor education and didn&#039;t qualify for college, and they need to work 12 hours a day to feed themselves, how are they going to move up? We already have thousands and thousands of college grads working minimum wage jobs, and those with degrees are going to get &#039;promoted&#039; to shift manager at Pizza Hut before the people without college degrees. THERE ARE NOT AS MANY GOOD PAYING JOBS AS THERE ARE LOW PAYING JOBS SO MATHEMETICALLY, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE TO MOVE UP INTO A BETTER PAYING JOB.&nbsp;I know math is hard for some people, and some people don&#039;t know that men of working age, or women, who don&#039;t have children can&#039;t get much more than food assistance. And having child after child after child to always have a child under school age is not something most people want, just to live in low income housing. That is RARE and is only meant to distract and raise hate among the stupid who believe it is a serious problem, as seen here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dmac1, post: 4679150, member: 60252"] And if people take those jobs, which generally don't offer health insurance, their children won't have insurance, and without insurance- even Medicaid- they will literally be refused service except if needed for immediate survival. If they take a job that barely pays the bills, but leaves little for food, their children will suffer when the earnings are 'too high' to stay on SNAP. Unless one has children, public benefits are VERY limited, and you want to punish children for the sins of the parents- if you call being unable to find work, or even afford to be able to pay bus fare to travel to look for a job a 'sin.' And as long as employers are allowed to pay wages that don't allow life to succeed, we will need to provide for the children. The vast majority of people who get any aid ARE already working. Making employers pay them enough would save TAXPAYERS from needing to help keep these workers alive. And for some reason, you believe that working at a low paying job long enough guarantees that you will move up the payscale. That is ignorant. Maybe 1 out of 10 people is a supervisor, and raises of 4 cents an hour every year is NOT moving up.And if someone starts working right out of high scholl because they got a poor education and didn't qualify for college, and they need to work 12 hours a day to feed themselves, how are they going to move up? We already have thousands and thousands of college grads working minimum wage jobs, and those with degrees are going to get 'promoted' to shift manager at Pizza Hut before the people without college degrees. THERE ARE NOT AS MANY GOOD PAYING JOBS AS THERE ARE LOW PAYING JOBS SO MATHEMETICALLY, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE TO MOVE UP INTO A BETTER PAYING JOB. I know math is hard for some people, and some people don't know that men of working age, or women, who don't have children can't get much more than food assistance. And having child after child after child to always have a child under school age is not something most people want, just to live in low income housing. That is RARE and is only meant to distract and raise hate among the stupid who believe it is a serious problem, as seen here. [/QUOTE]

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