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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thebrownblob" data-source="post: 5337267" data-attributes="member: 60485"><p>The founding fathers were really quite amazing. They understood eventually The many would try force the few. That’s why liberty is such an important item. Cannot have freedom without liberty. Liberty is spread across every document and pledge,  the constitution,  the way we vote ie. Electoral college, Even pledge of Allegiance. It’s one of the main reasons the rest of the world is always against us and hated us. Governments do not like liberty. Once they can take our liberty we are nothing. And it’s also why every socialist and communist organization talks about people in groups, they think everyone is the same. But in fact we are individuals.</p></blockquote><p></p>