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<blockquote data-quote="BrownBrokeDown" data-source="post: 2009323" data-attributes="member: 46824">Just to be clear, I understand that UPS was done with insurance.&nbsp; What i am saying is where was the negotiation for more money to have Teamcare benefits be the same/retiree costs be the same, or at the very least maintain 3 yr progression or lower it back to the previous 2 yrs...something, anything.&nbsp; Normally, negotiations with a prosperous company on a scale of 1-10, the company starts at 1, the union starts at 10 and they usually arrive somewhere between 4-6.&nbsp; This one seemed to end somwhere around 2.5-3.&nbsp; not terrible, could have been much worse, could have been much better, but there is nothing that showed a meeting in the middle.&nbsp; It was a meeting on the UPS side.That being said, I still haven&#039;t seen or heard anything from the opposing slate that makes me want to vote for them.&nbsp; Change for change&#039;s sake is not alway good.&nbsp; Maybe if they could give some specifics, instead of political generalizations and mudslinging...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BrownBrokeDown, post: 2009323, member: 46824"] Just to be clear, I understand that UPS was done with insurance. What i am saying is where was the negotiation for more money to have Teamcare benefits be the same/retiree costs be the same, or at the very least maintain 3 yr progression or lower it back to the previous 2 yrs...something, anything. Normally, negotiations with a prosperous company on a scale of 1-10, the company starts at 1, the union starts at 10 and they usually arrive somewhere between 4-6. This one seemed to end somwhere around 2.5-3. not terrible, could have been much worse, could have been much better, but there is nothing that showed a meeting in the middle. It was a meeting on the UPS side. That being said, I still haven't seen or heard anything from the opposing slate that makes me want to vote for them. Change for change's sake is not alway good. Maybe if they could give some specifics, instead of political generalizations and mudslinging... [/QUOTE]

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