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<blockquote data-quote="IzzyTheNose" data-source="post: 1126512" data-attributes="member: 15470">I&#039;ve already said why we find it aggravating. Of course not. But their initial proposal was garbage. So much so that it could be taken as them not being serious. It was THAT horrendous.Thank you for making my point for me. This is entirely why the Union should have walked away from discussions, and only returned once it was completely off the table. The Union didn&#039;t do that. If they had, it would have quelled any suspicions we had initially that the Union was going into negotiations without any teeth.But here we are, months after the company&#039;s garbage proposal, still talking about our benefits. If the company is using our benefits as a guise to make us take concessions elsewhere, it&#039;s working, and it&#039;s working because the Union is allowing it to work.Terrible analogy. I&#039;m not directly in the fight. It&#039;s like I&#039;m watching my son fight, and he&#039;s getting smacked around because his trainer is doing a poor job of giving him instructions. I can only yell from the stands. Which is what I&#039;m doing now. That&#039;s your advice? To do nothing? I&#039;ll pass. You handle these negotiations however you&#039;d like. I&#039;ll do my thing. I&#039;ve already started talking to every part-timer I know, and told them to make sure they vote against any proposal that states we&#039;ll be paying for our benefits, or any proposal where we&#039;re losing something. The frame of mind we ALL should have right now is that we&#039;re not losing a damn thing on this contract. NOTHING. The company has made money hand over fist for nearly a decade, and they&#039;ve rewarded their CEO, CFO and COO handsomely for it. Now they want to short-change us? Get out of here.I want the Union to start acting like it has all the bargaining power. Because it does.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="IzzyTheNose, post: 1126512, member: 15470"] I've already said why we find it aggravating. Of course not. But their initial proposal was garbage. So much so that it could be taken as them not being serious. It was THAT horrendous. Thank you for making my point for me. This is entirely why the Union should have walked away from discussions, and only returned once it was completely off the table. The Union didn't do that. If they had, it would have quelled any suspicions we had initially that the Union was going into negotiations without any teeth. But here we are, months after the company's garbage proposal, still talking about our benefits. If the company is using our benefits as a guise to make us take concessions elsewhere, it's working, and it's working because the Union is allowing it to work. Terrible analogy. I'm not directly in the fight. It's like I'm watching my son fight, and he's getting smacked around because his trainer is doing a poor job of giving him instructions. I can only yell from the stands. Which is what I'm doing now. That's your advice? To do nothing? I'll pass. You handle these negotiations however you'd like. I'll do my thing. I've already started talking to every part-timer I know, and told them to make sure they vote against any proposal that states we'll be paying for our benefits, or any proposal where we're losing something. The frame of mind we ALL should have right now is that we're not losing a damn thing on this contract. NOTHING. The company has made money hand over fist for nearly a decade, and they've rewarded their CEO, CFO and COO handsomely for it. Now they want to short-change us? Get out of here. I want the Union to start acting like it has all the bargaining power. Because it does. [/QUOTE]

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