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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 48033">OK2BC, Well said in your most recent post.&nbsp; What happened in NO at present is probably a result of decades but more importantly when the balloon went up the various gov&#039;t agencies whether city, state or Fed just flat failed in the initial stages.&nbsp; Whether the last few days to week are considered any better is a personal decision but the lost of life and property are mind boggling to say the least.&nbsp; One other thing that is becoming more clear to me is that at least in one case it wasn&#039;t the levee itself that failed but rather the seawall on top of it. Who built, authorized and engineered to what specs. in the days ahead will be worthwhile questions to ask. &nbsp;afups, As to Al Gore doing better that would probably depend more on your political point of view than anything else but realistically I think it would not have mattered. Much of what is coming to light about NO potential for disaster has been known for years and years, not so much since Bush came to office.&nbsp; This doesn&#039;t let Bush off the hook but he&#039;s not the sole source of blame either.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;It was the agency bureacracies that failed.&nbsp; Washington is now engaged in a massive finger pointing exercise among itself and to be honest this is usually what happens in a room full of guilty people.&nbsp; They know the music will at any moment stop and there are not enough chairs for everyone so by pointing the finger it may just throw someone off guard long enough so that if the music does stop they&#039;ve hopefully got a seat.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;IMO this is a shining example of Statist failure and another good reason to think as an individual and prepare as best you can.&nbsp; I find it ironic that NO with a large gov&#039;t dependant population is having such difficulty gaining some footing and direction while the folks in Mississippi who have lost everything as well seem to be working together more and starting the process of rebuilding.&nbsp; These are far more independent minded folks but in times like this when forced into a more collective force and mindset they are able to get more done and accomplish surprising tasks rather than sitting on the hood of a flooded car and crying &quot;Poor Poor Me, Save Me!&quot;&nbsp; You know some things do float and you could have swam out to higher ground. &nbsp;Yes OK2BC, I think it&#039;s fair but very tough to say that Katrina decided to cleanse the evolutionary gene pool.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 48033"] OK2BC, Well said in your most recent post. What happened in NO at present is probably a result of decades but more importantly when the balloon went up the various gov't agencies whether city, state or Fed just flat failed in the initial stages. Whether the last few days to week are considered any better is a personal decision but the lost of life and property are mind boggling to say the least. One other thing that is becoming more clear to me is that at least in one case it wasn't the levee itself that failed but rather the seawall on top of it. Who built, authorized and engineered to what specs. in the days ahead will be worthwhile questions to ask. afups, As to Al Gore doing better that would probably depend more on your political point of view than anything else but realistically I think it would not have mattered. Much of what is coming to light about NO potential for disaster has been known for years and years, not so much since Bush came to office. This doesn't let Bush off the hook but he's not the sole source of blame either. It was the agency bureacracies that failed. Washington is now engaged in a massive finger pointing exercise among itself and to be honest this is usually what happens in a room full of guilty people. They know the music will at any moment stop and there are not enough chairs for everyone so by pointing the finger it may just throw someone off guard long enough so that if the music does stop they've hopefully got a seat. IMO this is a shining example of Statist failure and another good reason to think as an individual and prepare as best you can. I find it ironic that NO with a large gov't dependant population is having such difficulty gaining some footing and direction while the folks in Mississippi who have lost everything as well seem to be working together more and starting the process of rebuilding. These are far more independent minded folks but in times like this when forced into a more collective force and mindset they are able to get more done and accomplish surprising tasks rather than sitting on the hood of a flooded car and crying "Poor Poor Me, Save Me!" You know some things do float and you could have swam out to higher ground. Yes OK2BC, I think it's fair but very tough to say that Katrina decided to cleanse the evolutionary gene pool. [/QUOTE]

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