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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 48110">susie &nbsp;There are more jackasses in the room.&nbsp; As tie said, you are trying to make something political out of it, shame on you.&nbsp; You are the one that is closed minded. &nbsp;Too bad. &nbsp;To classify those people as cant doers shows just how warped you have become.&nbsp; It is not the fault of the parents, the people there are adults.&nbsp; They choose which way to go.&nbsp; They choose to have children out of wedlock, children they know you and I are forced to support.&nbsp; They choose their own destiny.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;There are government supported classes that allow people to get control.&nbsp; My father in law taught automotive mechanics to the disadvantaged for years, until one whole class at graduation told him he was a fool.&nbsp; A fool for wasting his time teaching them something they would never use.&nbsp; A fool for working hard each day instead of sitting back not doing anything like them.&nbsp; None of the over 350 students, adult students, have ever gotten a job, none earn any money from the skills they learned, none pay taxes, but yet they all depend on you and I for support.&nbsp; Support they demand as their right.&nbsp; People like I refered to, those that have gotten on the gravy train that now many are coming from other countries to get on.&nbsp; And using the legal system to force us to let them get and stay on it.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;So my mind is closed if I think this is wrong?&nbsp; My mind is closed if I beleive that you and you alone are in charge of your future?&nbsp; That you can become whatever your wish might be if you have the desire?&nbsp; That whatever your background, race, nationality, you can acheive any goal you desire? &nbsp;THis is the crux of my posts.&nbsp; The people still stuck in the city are there because of a poor choice.&nbsp; Their choice.&nbsp; They must learn to deal with it.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;We do need to help, and we are helping.&nbsp; But for them to demand that we do things for them, and for you to try and focus blame on a political party both show that something is really wrong with you both. &nbsp;d</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 48110"] susie There are more jackasses in the room. As tie said, you are trying to make something political out of it, shame on you. You are the one that is closed minded. Too bad. To classify those people as cant doers shows just how warped you have become. It is not the fault of the parents, the people there are adults. They choose which way to go. They choose to have children out of wedlock, children they know you and I are forced to support. They choose their own destiny. There are government supported classes that allow people to get control. My father in law taught automotive mechanics to the disadvantaged for years, until one whole class at graduation told him he was a fool. A fool for wasting his time teaching them something they would never use. A fool for working hard each day instead of sitting back not doing anything like them. None of the over 350 students, adult students, have ever gotten a job, none earn any money from the skills they learned, none pay taxes, but yet they all depend on you and I for support. Support they demand as their right. People like I refered to, those that have gotten on the gravy train that now many are coming from other countries to get on. And using the legal system to force us to let them get and stay on it. So my mind is closed if I think this is wrong? My mind is closed if I beleive that you and you alone are in charge of your future? That you can become whatever your wish might be if you have the desire? That whatever your background, race, nationality, you can acheive any goal you desire? THis is the crux of my posts. The people still stuck in the city are there because of a poor choice. Their choice. They must learn to deal with it. We do need to help, and we are helping. But for them to demand that we do things for them, and for you to try and focus blame on a political party both show that something is really wrong with you both. d [/QUOTE]

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