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<blockquote data-quote="browned out" data-source="post: 5064105" data-attributes="member: 8105">I appreciate your point of view; but you are still a bit obtuse on the crux of the issue.&nbsp; The issue is not about you or me.The problem with the New UPS MVDC is that the only way it can be completed on upsers.com is to agree to &quot;voluntarily&quot; authorize.&nbsp;I voluntarily and fully authorize UPS to obtain driving recordsand reports about me for employment purposesas set forth in the separate Disclosure of Intention to Obtain Driving Records for Employment Purposes provided to me.Voluntary:&nbsp; &quot; proceeding from the will or from one&#039;s own choice or consent&quot;Usually voluntary means just that.&nbsp; &nbsp; One has a choice to volunteer or not.&nbsp;&nbsp; No choice was presented on the upser.com MVDC.I have no problem with UPS asking us to volunteer for something.&nbsp; We can choose to do something or choose not to.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; When UPS mandates volunteering, that is where the problem arises.&nbsp; The FMCSA MVDC mandated document does not include any of the new language UPS has added in 2021.The deceptive UPS MVDC should have been presented as two stand alone forms.1.&nbsp;&nbsp; The legal FMSCA required document that we have been required by the DOT FMSCA to submit for decades.2.&nbsp;&nbsp; A stand alone document that allows drivers a clear cut choice of whether or not to consent to release of the &quot;whatever&quot; records UPS wants access to.&nbsp;To be ethically and legally viable; the form would have to be drafted with language similar to this:&nbsp;☑&nbsp; I do not give consent or in any way authorize UPS to obtain driving records and reports.....<a href="https://coolsymbol.com/copy/Ballot_Box_Symbol_%E2%98%90" target="_blank">☐</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; I voluntarily and fully authorize UPS to obtain driving records and reports....UPS was dishonest when they stated the new MVDC was a government mandated form.&nbsp;&nbsp; UPS was not forthright when they did not provide our legal option to opt out of authorizing UPS to access the reports and records that UPS has no legal access to without our express consent.Voluntary.&nbsp; But not really.And did you read your &quot;separate Disclosure of Intention to Obtain Driving Records for Employment Purposes&quot;?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="browned out, post: 5064105, member: 8105"] I appreciate your point of view; but you are still a bit obtuse on the crux of the issue. The issue is not about you or me. The problem with the New UPS MVDC is that the only way it can be completed on upsers.com is to agree to [I]"voluntarily"[/I] authorize. [I]I voluntarily and fully authorize UPS to obtain driving records and reports about me for employment purposes as set forth in the separate Disclosure of Intention to Obtain Driving Records for Employment Purposes provided to me.[/I] Voluntary: " proceeding from the will or from one's own choice or consent" Usually voluntary means just that. One has a choice to volunteer or not. No choice was presented on the upser.com MVDC. I have no problem with UPS asking us to volunteer for something. We can choose to do something or choose not to. When UPS mandates volunteering, that is where the problem arises. The FMCSA MVDC mandated document does not include any of the new language UPS has added in 2021. The deceptive UPS MVDC should have been presented as two stand alone forms. 1. The legal FMSCA required document that we have been required by the DOT FMSCA to submit for decades. 2. A stand alone document that allows drivers a clear cut choice of whether or not to consent to release of the "whatever" records UPS wants access to. To be ethically and legally viable; the form would have to be drafted with language similar to this: ☑ I do not give consent or in any way authorize UPS to obtain driving records and reports..... [URL='https://coolsymbol.com/copy/Ballot_Box_Symbol_%E2%98%90']☐[/URL] I voluntarily and fully authorize UPS to obtain driving records and reports.... UPS was dishonest when they stated the [B]new[/B] MVDC was a government mandated form. UPS was not forthright when they did not provide our legal option to opt out of authorizing UPS to access the reports and records that UPS has no legal access to without our express consent. Voluntary. But not really. And did you read your "separate Disclosure of Intention to Obtain Driving Records for Employment Purposes"? [/QUOTE]

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