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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 4917563" data-attributes="member: 66082">This what happens every time one communicates with republicans about reality, their penchant to believe delusions takes over and they just start asserting things that have zero basis in facts in the reality based world.&nbsp; Yes I know you believe trump didn&#039;t incite a riot, except the RIOTERS were recorded and they said they were doing this on trump&#039;s orders.&nbsp; He asked them to come and then told them to march on the capital and told them the lie the election was stolen and that they had to stop it, and then his supports marched on the Congressional building and tried to stop the ratification of the election.&nbsp; This isn&#039;t a you think this and I think that thing.&nbsp; The RIOTERS say they did this under trump&#039;s orders. The protests in Summer was because a man was brutally killed by a police officer while he begged for his life for 9minutes.&nbsp; Zero elected Democrats called people to protest, they may have expressed solidarity with the protests, but they didn&#039;t organize the protests, the protestors weren&#039;t saying we are protesting because x, y, z democratic politician wanted us to protest.&nbsp; These are huge differences.The russia investigation was not based on that dossier, again the DOJ while trump was potus and the senate intelligence committee when republicans had a senate majority released reports saying the russia investigation which was started by the FBI was based on sound evidence. The Mueller report did say trump was guilty of obstruction of justice multiple times, the report went out of its why to say it did not exonerate trump, but that they would follow DOJ precedent not to charge a sitting potus with a crime, the Ukraine scandal had republicans publicly criticizing trump for his wrong doing, republicans wanted to censure trump over the riots on Jan. 6.&nbsp; trump&#039;s economic record is objectively abysmal.&nbsp; In terms of Biden, we shall see how his presidency turns out, but trump&#039;s was a disaster by any objective measure.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 4917563, member: 66082"] This what happens every time one communicates with republicans about reality, their penchant to believe delusions takes over and they just start asserting things that have zero basis in facts in the reality based world. Yes I know you believe trump didn't incite a riot, except the RIOTERS were recorded and they said they were doing this on trump's orders. He asked them to come and then told them to march on the capital and told them the lie the election was stolen and that they had to stop it, and then his supports marched on the Congressional building and tried to stop the ratification of the election. This isn't a you think this and I think that thing. The RIOTERS say they did this under trump's orders. The protests in Summer was because a man was brutally killed by a police officer while he begged for his life for 9minutes. Zero elected Democrats called people to protest, they may have expressed solidarity with the protests, but they didn't organize the protests, the protestors weren't saying we are protesting because x, y, z democratic politician wanted us to protest. These are huge differences. The russia investigation was not based on that dossier, again the DOJ while trump was potus and the senate intelligence committee when republicans had a senate majority released reports saying the russia investigation which was started by the FBI was based on sound evidence. The Mueller report did say trump was guilty of obstruction of justice multiple times, the report went out of its why to say it did not exonerate trump, but that they would follow DOJ precedent not to charge a sitting potus with a crime, the Ukraine scandal had republicans publicly criticizing trump for his wrong doing, republicans wanted to censure trump over the riots on Jan. 6. trump's economic record is objectively abysmal. In terms of Biden, we shall see how his presidency turns out, but trump's was a disaster by any objective measure. [/QUOTE]

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