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<blockquote data-quote="UnconTROLLed" data-source="post: 901024" data-attributes="member: 18708">It&#039;s insane that people use those same tired Limbaugh and Beck lines about Marxism etc when they are entertainers looking to incite hatred.&nbsp; The problem has nothing to do with any of that.&nbsp;&nbsp; It has to do with neither R or D party wanting to change the fundamental issues.&nbsp;&nbsp; Corporations have way too much power and scope and little consequences/limited liabilities,&nbsp; and a payroll large enough to jump through all of the gov&#039;t hoops,&nbsp; while small business simply cannot afford to stay in the game.Talk is cheap;&nbsp; if we know that starting a business the cards are stacked against you,&nbsp; why would you try to beat the system?&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Do we take our paychecks and run to the casino every day after work and spend all of our money trying to beat that system, too?&nbsp;Voting &quot;them&quot; out is impossible as there are too many of YOU voting for these clowns like Obama, Cain, Romney or whatever big business tycoon stooge rep on stage.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Sure when there are 80 votes your vote counts,&nbsp; but when it&#039;s 80 million you can be sure your vote is meaningless.&nbsp;Then you say &quot;if Obama is re-elected we will not be the free constitutional republic, civil society past generations have enjoyed&quot;.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It is NOT Obama.&nbsp;&nbsp; Please understand that although he is part of the problem,&nbsp; it is a SYMPTOM of the problem in DC rather than the root.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The ROOT of the problem ARE the millions of voters who refuse to open their eyes and see that no matter which party(s) are in control of the senate,&nbsp; congress&nbsp; presidency,&nbsp; they are ALL benefiting and profiting from the same very system that is weighing down and flooding the economies and market and allowing the wealthy to&nbsp; advance and maintain advantages that should not exist.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="UnconTROLLed, post: 901024, member: 18708"] It's insane that people use those same tired Limbaugh and Beck lines about Marxism etc when they are entertainers looking to incite hatred. The problem has nothing to do with any of that. It has to do with neither R or D party wanting to change the fundamental issues. Corporations have way too much power and scope and little consequences/limited liabilities, and a payroll large enough to jump through all of the gov't hoops, while small business simply cannot afford to stay in the game. Talk is cheap; if we know that starting a business the cards are stacked against you, why would you try to beat the system? Do we take our paychecks and run to the casino every day after work and spend all of our money trying to beat that system, too? Voting "them" out is impossible as there are too many of YOU voting for these clowns like Obama, Cain, Romney or whatever big business tycoon stooge rep on stage. Sure when there are 80 votes your vote counts, but when it's 80 million you can be sure your vote is meaningless. Then you say "if Obama is re-elected we will not be the free constitutional republic, civil society past generations have enjoyed". It is NOT Obama. Please understand that although he is part of the problem, it is a SYMPTOM of the problem in DC rather than the root. The ROOT of the problem ARE the millions of voters who refuse to open their eyes and see that no matter which party(s) are in control of the senate, congress presidency, they are ALL benefiting and profiting from the same very system that is weighing down and flooding the economies and market and allowing the wealthy to advance and maintain advantages that should not exist. [/QUOTE]

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