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<blockquote data-quote="Babagounj" data-source="post: 883964" data-attributes="member: 12952">klein, this truly shows the difference between why Canada has a lower murder rate than the USA.<a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/09/30/awlaki" target="_blank">(Salon)</a>&nbsp; — It was first reported in January of last year that the Obama&nbsp; administration had compiled a hit list of American citizens whom the&nbsp; President had ordered assassinated without any due process, and one of&nbsp; those Americans was Anwar al-Awlaki. No effort was made to indict him&nbsp; for any crimes (despite <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/09/15/assassinations/index.html" target="_blank">a report</a>&nbsp; last October that the Obama administration was “considering” indicting&nbsp; him). Despite substantial doubt among Yemen experts about whether he&nbsp; even has any operational role in Al Q aeda, no evidence (as opposed to&nbsp; unverified government accusations) was presented of his guilt. When&nbsp; Awlaki’s father sought a court order barring Obama from killing his son,&nbsp; the DOJ argued, among other things, that such decisions were “state&nbsp; secrets” and thus beyond the scrutiny of the courts. He was simply ordered killed by the President: his judge, jury and executioner.From an authoritarian perspective, that’s the genius of America’s&nbsp; political culture. It not only finds way to obliterate the most basic&nbsp; individual liberties designed to safeguard citizens from consummate&nbsp; abuses of power (such as extinguishing the lives of citizens without due&nbsp; process). It actually gets its citizens to stand up and clap and even&nbsp; celebrate the destruction of those safeguards.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Babagounj, post: 883964, member: 12952"] klein, this truly shows the difference between why Canada has a lower murder rate than the USA. [URL="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/09/30/awlaki"](Salon)[/URL] — It was first reported in January of last year that the Obama administration had compiled a hit list of American citizens whom the President had ordered assassinated without any due process, and one of those Americans was Anwar al-Awlaki. No effort was made to indict him for any crimes (despite [URL="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/09/15/assassinations/index.html"]a report[/URL] last October that the Obama administration was “considering” indicting him). Despite substantial doubt among Yemen experts about whether he even has any operational role in Al Q aeda, no evidence (as opposed to unverified government accusations) was presented of his guilt. When Awlaki’s father sought a court order barring Obama from killing his son, the DOJ argued, among other things, that such decisions were “state secrets” and thus beyond the scrutiny of the courts. [B]He was simply ordered killed by the President: his judge, jury and executioner. [/B]From an authoritarian perspective, that’s the genius of America’s political culture. It not only finds way to obliterate the most basic individual liberties designed to safeguard citizens from consummate abuses of power (such as extinguishing the lives of citizens without due process). It actually gets its citizens to stand up and clap and even celebrate the destruction of those safeguards. [/QUOTE]

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