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<blockquote data-quote="wilberforce15" data-source="post: 5384967" data-attributes="member: 5053">When is the time going to be right?They can&#039;t beat the specs of a 2014 Tesla, or make as many EV&#039;s right now as Tesla did in 2014.They are a decade behind, and the company in front of them is the fastest moving in history.The gap is getting bigger, not smaller. They&#039;re dead in the water.Honda&#039;s wildest dreams involve selling what Tesla does this year in 2030. And that&#039;s not going to happen, either.Tesla can make any EV cheaper than anyone. Tesla charges a ton, but they are making a ton. They have the biggest ability to lower prices of anyone, because their manufacturing is the best. They just don&#039;t have to lower prices to sell them all.Meanwhile, all the bigs are stuck pricing below their own costs. None of these guys are making money on EV&#039;s and they can&#039;t scale. Tesla can do both.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wilberforce15, post: 5384967, member: 5053"] When is the time going to be right? They can't beat the specs of a 2014 Tesla, or make as many EV's right now as Tesla did in 2014. They are a decade behind, and the company in front of them is the fastest moving in history. The gap is getting bigger, not smaller. They're dead in the water. Honda's wildest dreams involve selling what Tesla does this year in 2030. And that's not going to happen, either. Tesla can make any EV cheaper than anyone. Tesla charges a ton, but they are making a ton. They have the biggest ability to lower prices of anyone, because their manufacturing is the best. They just don't have to lower prices to sell them all. Meanwhile, all the bigs are stuck pricing below their own costs. None of these guys are making money on EV's and they can't scale. Tesla can do both. [/QUOTE]

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